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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2015, 03:51 AM »

I'm still waiting for an ugly Enigma.
Someone must be able to do it.  Wink

Not sure i want to see the results of that contest/poll  Huh  Cheesy

While my sets are all the same pattern for each model, here is a request for a set just received. Note how each model gets darker with the heavier frame.  There are all related but the only panel in common is one pink tip!  Will start these when current projects are finished.

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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2015, 03:57 AM »

Those are sharp!!!!!!
Ugly? Would love to hear zippy's thoughts on that..... He might say they already exist Tongue
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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2015, 04:37 AM »

How many would like to see a build pictorial of the pink set showing construction details?
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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2015, 06:26 AM »

I love build tutorials.

It shows exactly why I should never make a kite, step by step.  Cry
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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2015, 06:47 AM »

How many would like to see a build pictorial of the pink set showing construction details?

Yes. I would like that. I enjoy watching these being built.


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« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2015, 11:05 AM »

How many would like to see a build pictorial of the pink set showing construction details?

I'd love to see the tutorial.
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« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2015, 02:02 PM »



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Pink Flo?? Pink tip in every kite? @Sparkierob , this sounds like a kite order made for you :-D

Would love to see some pictorials too :-)

Thank you kindly, Iftah.
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« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2015, 07:45 PM »

Yes please!!
Even though I don`t build....well plastic bag/bamboo fighters from time to time....seeing these makes me appreciate even more the sewn together bits of cloth I've come to love so much!!
You make real nice stuff!!!
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« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2015, 08:09 PM »

Anyone at WSIKF/Long Beach WA State who wants to try out an Enigma, I'll be on the beach with a bag full of them.
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2015, 04:35 PM »

Nerds do not know the meaning of dull.

Bring it on.  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2015, 07:10 PM »

fascinating, keep it coming!
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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2015, 08:52 PM »

You may want to start a new thread and move the last few posts to it

so that the history is presented in 1 fresh thread.  Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2015, 09:20 PM »

Per your suggestion, I will do just that...

You may want to start a new thread and move the last few posts to it

so that the history is presented in 1 fresh thread.  Smiley
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« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2015, 03:00 PM »

May I ask you what drove you to use PX spars for the spine instead of the tapered PT spars ? I would think that tapered spars help to move the weight distribution toward the tail where we usualy put weight, but maybe did you rather get a very stiff spar ?

I'm asking because I want to make a SUL/UL Sixth Sense and I'm debating what to use for the spine, I plan on using 2PT for upper leading edge and 3PT on lower leading edge and lower spreaders.
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« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2015, 07:04 PM »

Frame choice depends on the kite and what you are trying to accomplish.

For the Enigma, the strength, constant bend radius, and stiffness of the PX tubes worked well.  Overall balance was achieved with the longer keel and tail weights.

I've seen about every variation used as a spine: straight Pxxx, pultruded, tapered (in both directions), light spine, heavy spine, ....

Testing is important.  You may well find several frame combos that work ok and a few or just one that is best.

Another example. As the Enigma leading edge has more curve at and below the lower spreaders, I opted NOT to use a heavier LLE than ULE due to bend characteristics. Both the P1X and 3PT worked ok in the UL.  The Nitros were preferred over the P2X in the Std.

Good question.  As with many things in kite design - it depends Smiley

May I ask you what drove you to use PX spars for the spine instead of the tapered PT spars ? I would think that tapered spars help to move the weight distribution toward the tail where we usualy put weight, but maybe did you rather get a very stiff spar ?

I'm asking because I want to make a SUL/UL Sixth Sense and I'm debating what to use for the spine, I plan on using 2PT for upper leading edge and 3PT on lower leading edge and lower spreaders.
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