aerostuff silver

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[ko]

hi all anybody out there have info as in identification (skyshark=p or pt) and weight of these rods ?? thanx KO

[zippy8]

Gold / Gold S - 4 wrap
Silver / Silver S - 3 wrap
Blue / Blue S - 2 wrap
Zen - 4 wrap - 10g.

The S spars are for smaller kites.

Basically Gold is for a standard kite, blue is for ULs, no-one uses silver and Zen solve all your problems at a stroke.

HTH

Mike.

[ko]

thank you mike  ko

[Sonnenwind]

no-one uses silver and Zen solve all your problems at a stroke.

R-Sky did in the Nirvana FE UL.

Zen still exclusively through Carl?
There has been AS red as well!


Malte

[zippy8]

R-Sky did in the Nirvana FE UL.

OK, no-one of any importance  I think almost every non-user error failure of AS that I've heard of was Silver.

Zen still exclusively through Carl?

Nope. But I couldn't possibly direct you towards another, commercial source now could I ? 

There has been AS red as well!

News to me. Details ?

Mike.

[RonG]

OK, no-one of any importance 

OK, that's where I come in    I tried it in my UL.

I think almost every non-user error failure of AS that I've heard of was Silver.

That was my experience.  GF Super Skinnies have been pretty reliable in that kite, I don't think the the AS Silver lasted 10 minutes.

The Gold in my std. and vented have been worth every penny though.

[ko]

that figures!! i have a kite coming i am pretty sure with the silver it is a standard are they really that bad?? and if so do the silver and gold use the same ferrule  thanx ko

[zippy8]

i have a kite coming i am pretty sure with the silver it is a standard are they really that bad??

Define "bad". 

It's not as if these things are spontaneously combusting mid-air but with Gold and Blue all of the failures I've heard of have been easily explained (normally user error). Some Silvers have been broken under less glorious situations.

I know Blue~Gold ferrules are different but as I've avoided the Silver.... dunno if there's a difference.

Mike.

[Sonnenwind]

Well, okay to specify:
The Nirvana FE was available in Silver S for the UL (and SUL) version and
Gold S if it's been the Standard or Vented FE.

I have a FE UL version in Silver S (leading edges, lower spreaders) since 2005, never broke a AS spar since then (my most flown kite) and several pilots really liked the kite. ;-)

It is interesting that for example Alphakites came to the conclusion that the Blue S are too stiff for its weight ins (S)UL kites. Spars in ultralight kites have to bend to for the necassary shape.
The only use they see is for Speedkites. Robertshaw would disagree I suppose.

Malte

[ko]

thanx mike-malte. the silver AS if a mod is 1 by the builder so i am NOW going to stop worrying and wait for it to arrive then go out and see thanx again ko  ps a  BLACK kite                                                                                                                                   

[ko]

well it turns out the silver really is THAT bad. maiden voyage 8-10mph 2pt landing and that was it broke a lle  only other stick i have tweaked in 1 1/2 yrs. is an old 2pt in a sand recovery   thanx ko                                                                                       

[tpatter]

KO - sad to see that, no fun when a kite breaks! 

Sharp looking kite - its like the video-reverse of your other one.

If the whole kite is framed in aero silver, seems like you may as well just try again with the same stick rather than reframing.

I think my Light is framed with 3pts and 5pt lower spreaders.  I have hammered the heck out of that kite with no concerns.  Perhaps you just got a bad stick.

[zippy8]

well it turns out the silver really is THAT bad.

Well we did try to warn you

Perhaps you just got a bad stick.

Perhaps but it doesn't explain the other failures which I've heard of that have been equally oh-come-on-now in their unexpectedness.

Mike.

[ko]

jeez mike i had a new kite in front of me !!! (it's called denial) tom yeh no problem with the light and NO the standard gets skyshark also thanx for your help ko

[anOldMan]

Mike,

It truly seems that "you: have had some very bad experiences with aerostuff silver!  Maybe it is the stars.

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