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« on: November 12, 2018, 09:24 PM »

Hi, I'm kinda new to the quad realm of kiting. I flown many dual line kites, including foils that have some good pull to them. I'm not a competition guy nor an urban trickster, just a weekend flyer. I love kites that have some heavy pull and a few that just let you know they are on the other end of the line. I have a NTK Spirit quad and it has sparked fire for higher quality wind surfers. Please help me decide...

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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2018, 01:47 AM »

I would go with a quad from the swop meet first.Say a std 1.5 Rev,some handles and decent lines[100ft].I read your already a kite flyer,so the chances of one go and forget it are lessened.Then if after a few trys/seessions.I would think you will know if the games on.Go from ther and seek other quad heads.Join the Dark Ones.

Have fun.

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2018, 01:54 AM »

I would go with a quad from the swop meet first.Say a std 1.5 Rev,some handles and decent lines[100ft].I read your already a kite flyer,so the chances of one go and forget it are lessened.Then if after a few trys/seessions.I would think you will know if the games on.Go from ther and seek other quad heads.Join the Dark Ones.

Have fun.

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Oh it's definitely game on. I understand the growing/learning pains. Thanks for the tips.
 
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2018, 01:57 AM »

I can`t respond to your poll because of it`s limitation(s) due to your wants in a quad.
By this I mean you say you like to have some heavy pull.
By your poll choices the only choice that will have a "heavy pull' is/are the Rev Blast series.
Another choice not listed would be a Rev 1 or a Zen with heavy frames. The largest Reflex series kite may suffice.
Others are 1.5 sized and they don`t have a heavy pull per se. Dunno about the Fulcrum...
They are all good and as stated the place to go would be the swap meet....realizing most quads for sale will be the 1.5 size....a bunch lately.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 02:03 AM »

You ask about some pull which indicates power kites yet list only Stunt kites.. If you want pull, you'll want a foil.
Some suggestions:
2M HQ Beamer
2M PL Hornet
Even one of my modified Symphonies will give you pull you won't find in what you have listed.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2018, 04:25 AM »

I would go with a quad from the swop meet first.Say a std 1.5 Rev,some handles and decent lines[100ft].I read your already a kite flyer,so the chances of one go and forget it are lessened.Then if after a few trys/seessions.I would think you will know if the games on.Go from ther and seek other quad heads.Join the Dark Ones.

Have fun.

BBPP

Oh it's definitely game on. I understand the growing/learning pains. Thanks for the tips.
 
Its a pleasure.Learning the basics i have found over many years is the way to go.Practice,practice and learn them well.
  A 1.5 Rev std is a great kite to learn the basics and then go from ther if yr hooked.I would then IF[like yr not gona B]you are hooked.Find some locals that fly quads and try some options before you buy.A Rev one is not everyone's cup of tea and then getting into specialist kites like a Zen,blast,,,,,, can get expensive quickly.I also would be very reluctant to lend my Zen to someone whos not had much line time on a quad.Fly a 1.5 then a Rev one and you will see what i mean.Chalk and Cheese
Learn the basics well first and then move on from that.Find a group of Dark ones and your learning curve will be much easier than alone.

Welcome to The Dark Side,always,always have FUN.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 04:43 AM »

I can`t respond to your poll because of it`s limitation(s) due to your wants in a quad.
By this I mean you say you like to have some heavy pull.
By your poll choices the only choice that will have a "heavy pull' is/are the Rev Blast series.
Another choice not listed would be a Rev 1 or a Zen with heavy frames. The largest Reflex series kite may suffice.
Others are 1.5 sized and they don`t have a heavy pull per se. Dunno about the Fulcrum...
They are all good and as stated the place to go would be the swap meet....realizing most quads for sale will be the 1.5 size....a bunch lately.
bt

I get what you're saying. My poll and my stated preferred way to fly are not in sync. I'm polling the kites I'm currently looking at purchasing. Being that I am new to quad flying, and that I have always wanted a Rev, I now find myself in a quandary. There are new quads that I've listed that really intrigue me. Now that I have written it out, I suppose that I am looking for validation on which one would start me out but also allow me to grow without too much frustration. Youtube instruction and practice will be my only source of instruction and motivation, and of course the many kiting forums. In the long run I will get a kite and love it, It'll hit the ground hard at some point and I'll fix it if need be, but I will be a quad flyer at last...
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 05:01 AM »

SFC where are you located? Best thing ever is to get your hands on a kite or 10 to try in person. There are many options beyond your list that are available!
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2018, 05:53 AM »

SFC where are you located? Best thing ever is to get your hands on a kite or 10 to try in person. There are many options beyond your list that are available!

I work/live in Saudi Arabia. Home is Kansas, only get home one month out of the year. So I will use the old and reliable system of trial and error. I've been away from kiting for a while, but I carry my Quantum everywhere I travel. I fly lots of really technical circles, dive and turns, and even the still occasional hello ground how you doin".
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2018, 08:03 AM »

Honestly I'm a little leary of the dark ones. Good ones are expensive. If I go pell mell to the dark embrace don't know what the wife will do. Cleavers and hatchets being readily available and all. Got a couple launches with some quad fliers a few weeks ago. Very little wind so didn't learn much. Those guys gave it a heckuva try for me though. Bought a older 1.5 Rev around 6 months ago. Haven't flown it. The pull to the darkside for me is the Vickie type quads. A lot of top notch fliers quit flying duels above 15 mph and grab the appropriate quad which makes me scratch my head in puzzlement. 15+ for me is when the groovy zen like tricking turns into high excitement, tons of fun and lots of OMG did I just pull that off. I got a Delta Hawk for high winds. That little bugger PULLS. At 25 mph my Mind Trick vented will still trick a bit. Over that it's patterns turns and such like on the Delta Hawk.Just not nearly as fast  Grin. Going to learn on my current Rev so I can jump to a high wind quad. Not having been around quads and watching videos I don't quite get the attraction. I fly to trick. When winds to high to trick is when I start thinking quad. Flying team with quads I get. That looks like tons of fun.The Kite Forge Djinn is in the starting stages of high wind capabilities.There is already a full vent. The next 2 will be extra vent and heavy vent (XT/HV) Following with much interest. Hmm Saudi Arabia brings to my mind lots of sand. 40 mph winds one might need a Kevlar kite LOL.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2018, 09:00 AM »

Trying other people's kites is the best way to go. If you can't, then it doesn't matter what you start with. If you stay with with it you'll get more kites. If the one you start with doesn't do what you want you will get more kites. The other possibility is that you won't. Jump in; the water's fine.
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