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Author Topic: The L'Atelier xt.z and the High Speed Automatic No Input BACKSPINS  (Read 4815 times)
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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2009, 05:32 PM »

I hold with the explanations above, that a backspin is much like a Lazy Susan except started from a Fade rather then a Turtle.

In that light those are what I would call Barrel Rolls, if you were viewing it from directly above or below the kite does not spin 360* flat on a horizontal plane, it does rotate around its spine which may be flat on that horizontal plane but the wings are rotating through the plane.

They are though what has commonly become called a Backspin today.

So much so that the first & only time I've done a "True" Backspin, I had to ask what it was since I had never seen it before, "A True Backspin" was the answer I got. So all that time I had been trying to do a Backspin I had actually been chasing the Barrel Roll.

So if I call those Backspins it leaves me no name for that other trick.

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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2009, 06:31 PM »

thanx mike i will now work on the backspin as i can barrel roll and barrel roll cascade pretty well --from what i gather i will be doing multiple lazy susans but with the inputs starting with the nose forward ?? the fearless should love that if i have it right?? thanx for the help i do want to get the art of flying down correctly and am in no hurry if it was easy it would'nt be any fun KO
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2009, 07:10 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2009, 07:49 PM »

ko,

The Fearless does very flat backspins - you will get them in no time.  I couldn't backspin very well at all until I learned them on that kite.  Just walk forward and your barrel-rolls will flatten right out.

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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2009, 12:36 AM »

Just walk forward and your barrel-rolls will flatten right out.

-Tom

In my experience, this technique works with most modern kites.  But you need to walk.  Folks just don't bother because nowadays, they get a 'rotation' anyway.

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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2009, 08:12 AM »

Here's a related question.

I just started learning the backspin cascade. For that trick, I have to walk forward (in anything but light wind) in order to get the reverse to work well.

I imagine this is typical of most kites, although the BS cascade comes easier on my Shadow than any other kite I've flown, but then I only fly that one in very light winds.
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2009, 04:20 PM »


In my experience, this technique works with most modern kites.  But you need to walk.  Folks just don't bother because nowadays, they get a 'rotation' anyway.

obi

Probably the truest thing I've read in a long while.
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