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« on: September 29, 2009, 01:05 AM »

The kite just doesnt fly well, in a good wind it has a tendency to stall when in a tight turn,not sure what to adjust,the horizontal  or the vertical parts of the bridle.If any one has access to the measurements of a well flying Hawaiian Team kite i'll buy the beer next time you are in Montreal Smiley

Right now its 3 legged bridle is set up roughly at (give or take a half inch)  from the upper spreader connector to the swivel the length is 19", from the center-t to the swivel the length is 25 1/2", and from the lower spreader connector to the swivel the length is 18".
All spars and bungee end fittings seem  normal.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 07:53 AM »

btw Jambo:
Most kites will enter a stall after a tight turn.....it is a great way to learn to control the kite in a stalled position.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 09:35 AM »

1.I get 20 3/4" from the LE to the swivel

2. 20 1/4 from LE to swivel

3. 22 3/4--I think the previous owner flew it in high winds as the swivel is about 2" below the mark.

4. 21"

Thanks Zeke  but as somewhat of a newb i'm not familiar with what your length terminology is referring to (embarassment smilie)  And what is the 21" referring to in number 4
With out a diagram i'd probably understand it in this phraseology=
Top lines to swivel
lower center lines to swivel
Left and right lines to swivel
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 11:32 AM »

Mike Dennis showed me that the bridle/line attachment point should be aprox 0.25 inches from touching the lower edge of the sail when pulled taught from both the upper and lower leading edge connections

 

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 02:34 AM »

kiteking   i notice in your photos the lines coming down seem to form a 90 degree angle with the lines coming from the lower leading edge,is this a good way to assure my bridle is set up correctly?
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 06:03 AM »

 Now thats kite flying,these new ultra light kites and all their tricks may have a lot of skill involved but to me it isnt really kite flying as much as a creative way to contol a crash,nothing like a big delta kite snarling through gracefull arcs in the sky... Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 06:24 PM »

kiteking   i notice in your photos the lines coming down seem to form a 90 degree angle with the lines coming from the lower leading edge,is this a good way to assure my bridle is set up correctly?

Sorry for the delay,

Yes, if you pull tight both down and toward the center, the tip of the bridle should be .25 inch short of the edge of the sail
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2009, 01:07 PM »

(Mind if I butt in?)
I have a team kite that I bought years ago used and question if the bridle is adjusted correctly. The attached photo shows how mine are set. One thing I wonder about is the (19") left edge to swivel is the fixed length line, aside from if I have the other lengths correct.

Also, what effect does making one shorter or longer?

Thanks for your patience with this noob.
I am anxious though 'cause I am taking it to Maui to fly, thought that might be rather fitting.

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2009, 04:24 PM »

less than 19" and it will pull less in high winds. Somewhere over 20"-21" and it may not fly at all.....there may also be a mark of some kind on the bridle that can be used as a guide line.

The one vertical (21.5) in the photo? There is a mark, inches down from the spar
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 05:17 AM »

Looks like you got the bridle set up properly Jim !!

That thing flew like a hurricane yesterday.  What thunder !

Now I know why you have those mountain climbing ropes as lines... I popped the lines on the Snapshot 1.4 twice before we left the field at 4:30.  I never would have imagine 150# lines snapping so easily, but they just went 'pop' with no fanfare at all.  Weather Canada reports that the wind was blowing at 26 mph (43 kmh).

It's a wonder that no one ended up taking a dip in that ditch yesterday.

Great stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 05:25 AM »

steve worcester measurements and 25mph winds made for a perfect day.
Thanks for the company John,hope you enjoyed the rare thrill of actually flying a Hawaiin team kite,a Hawaiian Spin off and an old 6ft Flexi foil all in the same afternoon.Those new fangled foils fly nice but when they crash what a tangle of lines.
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