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« on: October 29, 2009, 08:42 PM »

hi all i dont know how advanced this trick is so i will post my question (s) here. i am wondering about the proper sequence for the trick do you start with a say right hand 1/2 backspin and then right hand 1/2 lazy and then left or a series of same hand inputs and then switch?? or does this make any sense at all ?? i have been doing all these tricks separately for a while now and am finally getting around to putting them together i would like to get it right thanx KO
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 08:59 PM »

http://www.sportkiteflyer.com/Randyg_Jacobs_Ladder_Tutorial.wmv

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 09:23 PM »

thanx jim i have watched that vid as well as most of the others.. as u pointed out the answer was there right in front of me DUH!!! i think what threw me is were mr.G states that he is not worried about right hand left hand sequence for the sake of the tutorial thanx again ko
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 10:10 PM »

Generally I think it's easier to use the same hand to start the rotation, i.e. Right pull, flip, right pull, flip, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 10:12 PM »

If those Sea Devils are the ones you are trying them out on, they are pretty easy for JLs.  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 10:46 PM »

they are fearless and yes most everything so far is easy with them the reason i posted is i am really working on keeping smooth with both left and right inputs for all that i can do and getting everything right which is not always easy when you have to depend on vids and an occasional kite party to get it right that is why i asked about proper sequence for the JL so i do appreciate all of your help thanx again KO
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 11:07 PM »

with the trick in two halves, the half backspin, and half lazy, each half can be done with the same hand. together they make one "rung" of the ladder, so to speak. experienced fliers would notice if the "rungs" don't alternate direction but i don't think anyone pays attention to whether the two halves alternate.

it's definitely more difficult to alternate the halves, than the rungs. alternating the halves seems to interrupt the momentum of the kite, where at the completion of a rung, the kite seems to be in a neutral position, ready to continue in either direction.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2009, 12:47 AM »

Fearless is an easy kite to Jacob's Ladder, once you get the sequence down. Like most, if not all fliers, I wanted to do the Jacob's Ladder, before my skills were up to the task.

Two things that helped me with the Fearless was when the nose comes up into the fade, begin the Barrel Roll into the Turtle, don't allow the nose to go deep, before you do the the 1/2 Lazy.

Once you learn the sequence for the Jacob's ladder, alternating hands is not a problem.

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2009, 12:58 AM »

Basically, in a textbook JL, everything alternates.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 12:50 PM »

martin has a very good 1 also the way he repeats things, i find helpful...but   it really helps to have ideas from others to wrap your brain around it.  http://www.youtube.com/user/DPmama74#p/u/25/11D9jvckX1Y
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 01:01 PM »

Martin does really good tutorials. It was his video that helped me crack the Taz.


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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 07:35 PM »

` jay getting the input for the 1/2 lazy before the kite got to nose deep is what was holding me back thanks to all KO
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 07:40 PM »

During the half lazy susan, where the nose is now pointing towards you, what is the input to get it into the fade again?

Isit a long pull with slack (like how u get a fade from a flare), or is it more like a pop with slack?
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 11:51 PM »

The input I use is the same as pulling from a flare to a fade.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 07:52 AM »

you don't need any slack when going from the half lazy (nose in) to the fade.  Just a smooth pull.
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