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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 10:52 AM »

+2 on the hacksaw blade but i do use blue painters tape, havnt noticed any residue and for me it is just easier to mark and see my mark any way bottom line-- it is not rocket science as stated above slow and easy..need a sticky on this 1 ! great input and tom have fun KO
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 11:10 AM »

Sticky's a good idea. My first reaction to this thread was grief for all the great content on this subject lost with the old GWTW.  Cry
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 11:13 AM »

As a relative newbie to this I have found it very useful.  It would seem like a good idea to keep the thread around for the next newbie who has the same question. 

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 11:53 AM »

same here allen!! i cut my teeth on the last of the old forum some of what was on there unfortunately will never be replaced
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 11:57 AM »

Here are a couple tips (learned the hard way) ... when gluing a ferrule in place ALWAYS use some sort of stop and ALWAYS test insert it before applying the glue.  A burr or a bit of debris can prevent the ferrule from fully inserting and guaranteed if that happens the glue will set instantly.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 12:13 PM »

Here are a couple tips (learned the hard way) ... when gluing a ferrule in place ALWAYS use some sort of stop and ALWAYS test insert it before applying the glue.  A burr or a bit of debris can prevent the ferrule from fully inserting and guaranteed if that happens the glue will set instantly.
personally I always mark where the ferrule should end up with my thumbnail (as in my thumbnail somewhere in the middle of the ferrule)...then slide the ferrule into the rod and do not let go of that spot until i can feel that the glue has dried a bit.....even then i carefully lay the rod down on its side to dry completely.....
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 12:31 PM »

personally I always mark where the ferrule should end up with my thumbnail (as in my thumbnail somewhere in the middle of the ferrule)...then slide the ferrule into the rod and do not let go of that spot until i can feel that the glue has dried a bit.....even then i carefully lay the rod down on its side to dry completely.....
This is exactly what I do, though I usually mark with a metallic ink pen.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 01:33 PM »

Since I rough up the ferrule with a file, i always have a mark for gluing.
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 03:07 PM »

personally I always mark where the ferrule should end up with my thumbnail (as in my thumbnail somewhere in the middle of the ferrule)...then slide the ferrule into the rod and do not let go of that spot until i can feel that the glue has dried a bit.....even then i carefully lay the rod down on its side to dry completely.....
This is exactly what I do, though I usually mark with a metallic ink pen.

hmm..no pen for me....but you know who i learned this from......you learn it from her too???

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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 04:19 PM »


Low stick (blue) masking tape.  This is really handy for making stops to ensure that you insert ferrules to their exact depth.

I use Steve's method when gluing ferrules, only took me one time ending up with a short ferrule when I over inserted while twisting it to spread the glue and the glue did that "Instantaneous set thing" to figure that the little extra time that takes saves a few choice words in the long run.

I normally use a two part epoxy when building at home though. But I still use the tape as it keeps you from getting epoxy up on the area you don't want it. I've never had an expoxied ferrule come loose.

Another tip - don't put your end cap on first then glue the ferrule, todays solid ferrules act like a piston and compress the air in the tube, when you let go out comes the ferulle, not so much of a problem with Super Glue but I've had it happen with epoxy.

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 04:40 PM »

hmm..no pen for me....but you know who i learned this from......you learn it from her too???

Didn't learn it from anyone, just seemed like a logical way to go about it.  Prepare all the ferrules and rods, glue the ferrules, and leave them lying somewhere where to dry while I work on other parts of the kite.


Since I rough up the ferrule with a file, i always have a mark for gluing.

I sand down the ferrule and the inside of the rod (handy round diamond file for that...) to get a better bond, but I'm pretty indiscriminate with the sanding so I still mark the ferrule for accuracy.
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2009, 11:15 AM »

Another related question.  Many of my kites are silent as to the type of frame is used.  I was planning on using Sky Shark tubes.  Any hints on how to choose?  How will I know the tube matches the remaining parts on the kite with regards to flex and strength or is this not a worry? 

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