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« on: November 07, 2009, 05:31 AM »

When I goto unroll the kite from the yoyo into the fade it doesn't unroll crisp,but rather loosely. When it unrolls the kite doesn't go into the fade,but rather the flare or nose pointed down. How can I  correct this?
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 06:49 AM »

Unroll while the kite is pointed up? Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm trying to visualize what you are doing. It sounds like you unroll while flying downwards and you want to end in a fade. It also sounds like the kite isn't getting enough rotation. I don't think I've ever had the balls to try that one, so I'm only guessing here. I'm thinking more slack or keeping it for a little longer to let the kite get around further. And we all know what happens when you pop out of the fade close to the ground, so catching the fade gently and solidly is important. Would a little more weight help? Hope this helps until one of the trick gurus gets here.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 07:00 AM »

I'm tempted to say you're throwing too much slack at it, or giving it too much input.

Every kite behaves differently in this regard, so you'd probably get more useful answers if you said which kite(s) you're working with.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 07:51 AM »

The i'm using is the black widow std,and yes i'm flying downward toward the ground..Here's what i'm doing:
#1 i go into the yoyo from the jacobb ladder
#2 i fly down toward the while in the yoyo
#3 i give slack to flare the kite
#4 i pull back to unroll the kite
#5 when the kite unrolls it doesn't unroll smoothly like in the videos,the acts like it doesn't want unroll,and go all the way around..
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 09:20 AM »

Sounds like too much slack.  For the unroll, you want to pull enough to get the kite to unroll and then get ready to catch it in the fade.  It depends on the wind and the kite, keep at it and you will get it.

One way to practice is to manually roll it up and then do a belly launch, to unroll, to rising fade.  The finesse you develop doing this will make the flare/unroll/fade while rolled up and flying a breeze.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 09:48 AM »

Thank you i'll give a try and let you know how it's going... Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 10:12 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 05:48 PM »

When you roll up go immediately into a turtle (nose away), then a  Half Lazy, and unroll....
It adds an extra rotation to the unroll.
My favorite move… It is really a "Half Lewis"
How many can you do in a row?
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 04:35 AM »

Don't know. I got the yoyo down pat,but the unroll into the fade is eluding me right now.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 09:04 PM »

I had similar problems learning to unroll. I was pulling and got different results often. I since learned to take a few steps back whilst unrolling. It helps to take up the slack.
And I agree unrolling from the turtle is way cooler and easier Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2009, 09:25 PM »

It helps if you over-rotate the kite like you are going for another wrap and then un-roll, especially in light wind.

So when you go into the flair make sure the nose goes past horizontal.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 12:21 PM »

Ace and JimB,thank you for the advice Wink. I'll try both of your great ideas after this tropical storm passes our area,wind is to strong,even for vented kites right now.. Cry
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 04:28 AM »

Y'all were right about the amount of  slack that I was giving the kite during the unrolling (too much !!)this was makeing the unrolling to loose and not cripse,now I just need to work on the amount of slack that I give the kite during the unroll. Cool
Thank you all for the greeat advice /solution to my problem!!
PS,more questions to come very shortly Grin
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 11:02 AM »

Yeah Tommy, then once the kite finishes unrolling just reslack and catch the Fade just like you'd normally catch it in the Fade position. = Fruit roll up
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