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Author Topic: Identifying 2,3,4 wrap  (Read 5121 times)
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« on: November 10, 2009, 05:50 PM »

How can I identify the difference between the 2,3, & 4 wrap framing ?

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 06:02 PM »

What "brand" rods?
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 06:06 PM »

That's gonna take a tad bit of work Shocked let me set this yoyo down & I'll grab em outa my G5. brb


They say Revolution on em soooooooooooooooooo let me guess??? Is dat da brand??? Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 06:17 PM »

From memory ...
"Professional" - 2 wrap
"Ultra Light" - 3 wrap
"Equipped" - 4 wrap
That's all I got.  Feel free to correct and or expand on this.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 06:34 PM »

U have cleared da muddy water 4 me

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 06:36 PM »

Glad to be of service Abster
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 08:59 PM »

Couldn't find your old chart Steve? At least the memory isn't failing you

From your old chart ..

Revolution Rods -
Sometimes hard to understand, Rev rods come in 2 basic sizes. The 'old' skinny (0.25 inch interior diameter) rods. And the thicker (0.43 ID rods).

The larger "SLE" rods are used for leading edges in most of the kites being made today. The thinner rods are found as the vertical rods on all Rev's and also double as leading edges on SUL 1.5's, Rev 2's and in 'standard' Rev 1's. The indoor and EXP's have their own rods.

There are 3 basic types of each of the Rev rods:

Professional - 2 wrap rods used for SUL applications. These are only made in .25 inch diameter.

Ultra Light - which is a 3 wrap rod and considered the 'standard' Rev rod.
The Supersonic, Rev 1.5 SLE, Rev 1 SLE and the Rev 2 use these rods.

Equipped - a 4 wrap rod and sort of the 'high wind' Rev rod.
The Blast series, Shockwave, 1.5 vent and the Rev 1 standard use these rods.

Okay ... I lied. There is another rod. The Stiff, a 5 wrap rod for extreme conditions. These are pretty rare and so far as I know, no production kite was made with these.

All the different wraps, except the Professional, come in both the SLE (or .43) and the .25 versions.


Sadly I can't post the nice table you had with all the measurements and ferruling to the forum & of course Race Rods have been added since you wrote that but they haven't been standard issue on anything have they?

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 07:13 PM »

Thanks Mike
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 08:33 PM »

Memory is not as bad as usual.
I'll clean up the old site stuff from the page and remove dead links eventually but here is the info: http://www.gwtwforum.com/extras/rev/rods.htm
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 06:27 AM »

Steve,

Neat chart ... thanks.

I noticed one mistake ... the REV II has 24 inch verticals not 34 inch.  And, one addition ... the REV II now comes with a three piece leading edge ... 24.75 inch center rod with no ferrules and 24.75 inch wings with one ferrule each.

Most Rev fliers speak disparagingly about the 0.43 inch SLE rods in a 1.5 kite.  They switch out the large diameter leading edge for the thinner 1/4 inch rods either at purchase or soon there after.  Since the majority of Rev kites sold are the 1.5 size, this sentence from the chart seems confusing: The larger "SLE" rods are used for leading edges in most of the kites being made today.

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 08:40 AM »

they make "Silver Bullets" spars too, they're supposed to be tapered and lighter/stronger
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 09:07 AM »

Thanks for pointing out the error on the Rev II verticals Tom.  I did correct that.  This chart was done in 2002 and the info was based on the Rev line up at that time.  7 years ago, as I recall, we were still doing a fair amount of business upgrading peoples kites to the "newer" SLE rods hence the statement that "SLE" rods are used for leading edges in most of the kites being made today"
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 09:53 AM »

In fact, the new 4 wrap rods are now labeled "strong".
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 12:18 PM »

Actually, most of the Revolutions do use the SLE rods.  The only ones that don't come standard with the SLE is the EXP, Rev II, Indoor and the B-Series.  All other models (Supersonic, Supersonic Vented, Shockwave, 1.5 SLE, 1.5 SLE Vented, Rev 1, Blast, Powerblast 2-4, Powerblast 4-8) all come with the SLE 7/16" leading edges.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 01:35 PM »

Actually, that is exactly what the page says.

Am I missing something here?
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