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« on: November 12, 2009, 04:43 AM »

I've seen most of the vids on the backspin by mama74/others Undecided,but i'm haveing trouble duplicating this on the field Cry. I can get 1 to 2 rotations ,but loose it after that. Either the line gets caught on the yoyo stopper or the kite doesn't rotate around Embarrassed(i think it's called a barrel roll).
Here's what I do:
1. enter the fade from a 1/2 axel or flare
2. pull the line of the up wing & give slack w/the offhand
*any advice/guidence is greatly appreciated*
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 04:46 AM »

Walk towards the kite all the time it's backspinning.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 10:53 AM »

Walk towards the kite all the time it's backspinning.


I agree, except for the lightest winds you usually need to move toward the kite during the backspin. This is good advice while learning many new tricks.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 02:27 PM »

Thank you,i'll give it a try.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 08:08 PM »

One thing I also realise is that kites that sit very nose high in a fade can be difficult to backspin and they turn into barrel rows instead. Try and pull for the rotation when the fade is flat - the spine is parallel to the ground. Also what you could aim for is to pull for the spin at the point when the kite is "almost falling out of the fade" as that is the lowest where the nose could go in a fade.

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 12:23 AM »

 Hey TOMMY

   This May be a DUMB Question since I do not see a Mention of the kite your flying right off. Or maybe I just missed it.

         However Does your Kite have TAIL weights IN it???

    As the Kite Slows in the wind and as it begins to loose Kenetic energy the Tail will Naturally begin to "SAG" as you are talking about... YOU may want to Move or remove any weight in the Keel UP or OUT of the Kite and see if that helps you out some.

   Also try doing as one fellow said do the spin with more movement down wind and the Nose deeper comer out of the spin.

   Fast EDDY
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 08:22 PM »

The kite i'm learning on is the black widow,and yes it has tail weights.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 10:13 PM »

Pull the lower wing rather than the upper.  Go to Randy's site and take a look at the backspin cascade.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2009, 12:40 AM »

Pull the lower wing rather than the upper.  Go to Randy's site and take a look at the backspin cascade.

I Agree. 

For me, the perfect time is just as the low wing is starting to swing back up.

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 05:39 PM »

yes, you always pull the bottom wing. the prism video will say the same thing.
walk fowards like they said. and also, what I do is make sure to keep an even amount of time between each pull.
Like a metronome, even. If you pull to early, i find the kite falls out of the fade, and if you pull to late, it looks extremely sloppy.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 07:16 PM »

Everythings been covered with the exception of don't dilly-dally.  It's a little easier if you try to do the backspin immediately after getting into the fade.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 06:03 PM »

As mentioned above, tilt the kite so one wing is lower than the other. I kept the kite level when first learning the trick. Wheever I did manage to get a backspin, I couldn't figure out what I did right that time.

It took me several months over two seasons, to finally figure out what I was doing wrong. Even then, it was one of those happy accidents: I got a backspin while trying to do a different trick. I saw the proper set-up that time and everything fell into place after that.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 08:04 PM »

Thank you all for the valuble info..
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2010, 08:06 PM »

I realize this thread is a little old, but I'd like to add one minor (but important) point: Learn to fly the kite in a fade. Backspins are much easier if you can put the kite into position when and where you want to, instead of just waiting for an opportunity with your strong hand poised to strike.

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