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« on: December 05, 2009, 12:28 PM »

Hello, to all i'm looking for the plans and info on the Tongue:Abraxas trick kite,if you can help it would be great! Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 04:14 PM »

http://www.snapstall.de/

> Resources - Downloadbereich

> Abraxas

3 files: Abraxas Strong + Fan°Proof (2 vented versions), Abraxas Standard, Abraxas SUL

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 04:59 AM »

Thank you for the reply. I hope I can write to you threw this forum if,i've got any questions on this kite build.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 07:41 AM »

I was wondering the same... Huh
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 09:39 AM »

First thing I promise to look into this thread daily, so feel free to ask.

Next thing, be sure to have a look at the links provided in the two sticky threads at the top of this board, especially this:

http://www.tweelijners.com/tom/tomskitesite-en/Home.html

It's a different kite, but in english, has a lot of photographs and is very thorough. I don't think it matters if you start from a different plan!
Only one thing: It is NOT necessary to cut Icarex with a soldering iron, you can use a regular (sharp) cutter; Icarex doesn't fray. You only have to hot-cut the Dacron reinforcement-parts. Of course it doesn't hurt to do it, but I find cutters much easier. Do what feels better to you.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 09:56 AM »

... be sure to have a look at the links provided in the two sticky threads at the top of this board, especially this:

http://www.tweelijners.com/tom/tomskitesite-en/Home.html

... one thing: It is NOT necessary to cut Icarex with a soldering iron, you can use a regular (sharp) cutter; Icarex doesn't fray. You only have to hot-cut the Dacron reinforcement-parts.

Erik


Best advice for anyone reading over some of the older kite building instructions, save yourself hours, hot cutters are only for Dacron these days, the chances of any of todays coated spinnaker cloths fraying with proper construction are pretty low, with Icarex you'd have to have very loose or unfinished seams and be flying in hurricane conditions.

Good luck with your build, keep up your conversation here so others can learn and post us a pic or two.

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 05:33 PM »

...flying in hurricane conditions.


Wait... we're not supposed to fly in that?!? Huh
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 02:23 AM »


Best advice for anyone reading over some of the older kite building instructions, save yourself hours, hot cutters are only for Dacron these days, the chances of any of todays coated spinnaker cloths fraying with proper construction are pretty low


Agreed. 

There are a couple minor exceptions but in general just use a hobby knife.  Heck, I even cold-cut my dacron *IF* the cut edge is going to be contained (covered with fabric or edge binding.)  It's stable enough to not fray during construction, but a raw cold-cut and exposed edge will likely fray over time.

For general construction and panel cutting of kite fabric (ripstop nylon and icarex) I cold cut.

Note:  just for completion of my statement above, a notable exception that I allude to regarding cold cutting would be if you cut your own edge binding strips out of ripstop and apply it single-folded.  They'll look great at first if you cold cut, but edging takes some abuse and they will fray over time.  Not at first, mind you  - it will be like an annoying slow burn over the life of the kite.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 07:14 PM »

But then a recent thread over on Kitebuilder shows some of the 1.5 oz Nylon ripstop used on a banner that totally frayed right on the sewing table before even being exposed to wind, so I guess I should change my advise to - make a test cut and try to fray it before committing to cold cutting. I personally haven't purchased any fabric over the last 20 years that needed hot cutting but there is always that one in a thousand exception  Embarrassed

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