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« on: December 21, 2009, 04:28 AM »

Hi all,

Which UL kite (ignore budget for now) do you think is the number 1 on your list? I have the Airwave, 0-5miles and it flies really well, execute very precise half axels but not so easy for yoyo (refuses to unwrap!!) or jacobs ladder.. (i think im just not good enuf yet)

The problem in my area is that the wind at times gets from 1mph to sudden bursts of easily 10mph and i broke a few spreaders due to that. I am now looking for another UL that has a higher wind range catering to those freak gusts, but able to fly easily in very very very little wind.

The range of kites i can find locally is very limited, so the best is still to hear from all the seasoned pilots here. Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 05:03 AM »

Exile UL.
I've got at least 10 other UL/SUL, and the Exile fits me best, so far.
When there's too little wind, the Ozone is still my goto kite, I can fly that in nothing.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 05:12 AM »

DSUL. It can take the high wind stuff (but it wouldn't be much fun - just it wouldn't break), and goes really low and floaty. It's the absoulte top of my list (which admittedly is a list of one!)
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 05:24 AM »

Hi Chris,

If price is not an issue, I would recommend the Widow Maker UL. It has a similar style and feel compared to your incoming Widow Maker STD so the good thing is that you can develop your style and feel on the same "family" of kites across a wider wind range. The WM STD actually already have very very good low wind range. It has one of the best low wind range among all the STD kites out there so you would still be able to fly and trick in lower wind.

However having said that, trick wise there are still differences between the WM UL and WM STD, primarily in the sense that the UL is easier on some tricks compared to the STD while harder on others due to a lighter frame. Here's a quick and brief rundown of my impressions on the UL (compared to the STD in my hands)

  • Half Axels and Cascades are there for both UL and STD. The WM does these pretty easy and ok
  • Easier and nicer looking 540s and slot machines
  • Harder backspins compared to the STD but still within reach
  • With the stock 12gm tailweight, the UL is very hard to 1 pop yoyo. However the interesting thing is that you could remove the tailweight on the UL and learn 2 things. 1)The rising turtle 2)2 pop yoyos. Once you learn that trick eventually, put the 12gm tailweight back on and you would be able to backspins it too
  • In overall, the Jacob's Ladder is a bit harder on the UL compared to the standard especially in the part where you need to drop it on its back and do a proper 1/2 lazy. Touch and timing is more critical and if not careful the kite loses altitude very fast. However the good thing is that it'll help to clean up your technique

Hope to bump into you at the local flying field some day. There are a few flyers around here that have the WM UL too so you could maybe give it a try.

Slight digression. If you are interested, I have this that you may want to look at as well:
http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=2132.0

-Darryl
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 06:10 AM »



No1 on my list by miles would be the Ophidion UL, which is very close to a SUL; from 1.5knots (1.73mph);
followed by Talon UL; which needs a tiny bit more wind;
and then the Tantrum UL. (Haven't checked out the Vendetta UL yet).

 
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 06:10 AM »

I just got this one- love it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:31 AM »

My first choice would be the Krystal FX LW from R-Sky.

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 06:46 AM »

ul-sano ssl
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now if we can just get an axiom ul Cry
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 08:53 AM »

Asking the question "which UL?" is just going to get about 20 different responses. Since you already have an UL you should be asking "What can I do to improve my UL skills?"

I haven't ever flown the Airwave but I suspect it's adequate for learning the basics of UL trick flying. The fact that you can roll it up is a positive, most ULs are more difficult to roll up.

How are you breaking it? While flying? Hitting the ground or when you're giving it an input? I spend most of my time flying UL & SULs and they don't just snap even if the winds pick up.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 09:07 AM »

good one james
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 09:27 AM »

Asking the question "which UL?" is just going to get about 20 different responses. Since you already have an UL you should be asking "What can I do to improve my UL skills?"

I haven't ever flown the Airwave but I suspect it's adequate for learning the basics of UL trick flying. The fact that you can roll it up is a positive, most ULs are more difficult to roll up.

How are you breaking it? While flying? Hitting the ground or when you're giving it an input? I spend most of my time flying UL & SULs and they don't just snap even if the winds pick up.

I disagree ... and in the great tradition of GWTW ... why not just throw some money at the problem ?

Get a Fearless ... vented ... that thing flies in a vacuum !

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2009, 09:31 AM »

ul-sano ssl
sul-sano ssz

now if we can just get an axiom ul Cry
Good luck getting one of those ! I haven't seen either for sale in a long time.

Sure would like to try either, though.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2009, 09:44 AM »

Do you want to easily access tricks or have to coax them out?  Want the absolute lowest wind flying ability or a bit more mass for easier tricks? 

I've had both the Shadow and Exile UL and really liked them both, but I'd consider them kites for experienced flyers.  My favorite is the Fearless SUL, but as Frazer pointed out, they are expensive (and I wouldn't recommend such a kite if you are breaking lower spreaders).

I've flown my friends Acrobatix UL and its a fun kite to fly that goes pretty low, but you probably need 2.5mph or so and it does not like bumpy wind (but its cheap).

If you want to be able to fly, but are not concerned about modern tricks, its hard to beat the Prism Ozone - it gracefully flys in next to nothing.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2009, 10:16 AM »

Asking the question "which UL?" is just going to get about 20 different responses. Since you already have an UL you should be asking "What can I do to improve my UL skills?"

I haven't ever flown the Airwave but I suspect it's adequate for learning the basics of UL trick flying. The fact that you can roll it up is a positive, most ULs are more difficult to roll up.

How are you breaking it? While flying? Hitting the ground or when you're giving it an input? I spend most of my time flying UL & SULs and they don't just snap even if the winds pick up.

I disagree ... and in the great tradition of GWTW ... why not just throw some money at the problem ?

Get a Fearless ... vented ... that thing flies in a vacuum !

-Frazer

This is true, but breathing in a vacuum becomes an issue.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2009, 10:20 AM »

Asking the question "which UL?" is just going to get about 20 different responses. Since you already have an UL you should be asking "What can I do to improve my UL skills?"

I haven't ever flown the Airwave but I suspect it's adequate for learning the basics of UL trick flying. The fact that you can roll it up is a positive, most ULs are more difficult to roll up.

How are you breaking it? While flying? Hitting the ground or when you're giving it an input? I spend most of my time flying UL & SULs and they don't just snap even if the winds pick up.

I disagree ... and in the great tradition of GWTW ... why not just throw some money at the problem ?

Get a Fearless ... vented ... that thing flies in a vacuum !

-Frazer

This is true, but breathing in a vacuum becomes an issue.

Sheesh !

Theres just to pleasing some people is there ?  Angry

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