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Author Topic: Why no Vented???  (Read 2583 times)
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« on: December 23, 2009, 03:47 PM »

Nuthin' major here gang Cool
Just kinda wonderin' why Benson didn't make any of the Gemini's in a Vented?
Not that I would want a mini in a vent Embarrassed Wink
Has he made anything in a vented? 
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 04:13 PM »

Benson made Vented Phantoms, back in the day
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 04:15 PM »

Nuthin' major here gang Cool
Just kinda wonderin' why Benson didn't make any of the Gemini's in a Vented?
Not that I would want a mini in a vent Embarrassed Wink
Has he made anything in a vented? 

Because the Mini-Gem is meant to serve the higher wind role.  It does so by reducing the sail area and thus the pull on the kite.

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 05:28 PM »

Before the miniGem was the Matchbox, a smaller version of the Box Of Tricks. I believe the Reflex was a smaller Fusion. There's a trend...
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 02:27 AM »

Before the miniGem was the Matchbox, a smaller version of the Box Of Tricks. I believe the Reflex was a smaller Fusion. There's a trend...
But where's Tim going with the DS?

A mini DS, a vented DS or nothing at all.

From a commercial perspective, the release of the UL seems to have significantly increased the sales of the standard.

Whilst the market for a UL is greater than a high wind variant, Mark Clements reported a similar increase in interest with the release of the Talon vent.

One things for sure,if Tim does decide to go for a high wind version, he won't be rushed and it will be released some time on Tuesday after lunch.

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 10:21 AM »

I would very much like a higher wind version of the DS. I love mine, but don't get to fly it much because my local winds are often too strong.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 05:04 PM »

heavy weight, heavy lines, fly the ds! Huh
I don't see a mini ds(although now that you bring it up....the more i think about it)
as long as the ul took i see the vent taking longer and having less of a market
a big wind trickable ds?...yep sometime after lunch on tues
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2009, 02:54 AM »

I would guess that the DS vented is a long way away. To build a vented is a lot of work and takes a serious amount of time. Would there be a market for a 250 to 300 pound vented kite? Only time will tell.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2009, 04:20 AM »

so if he made a smaller version would he call it 'personal space'?  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2009, 05:56 PM »

There are about 5 people who buy vented kites.

Unless you're flying comps, I don't see why you'd want a vented.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2010, 11:28 AM »

I've had 4 vented kites over the years and now I have 1, just in case I ever get to fly pairs or team in competition again. It's not in my kitebag and it's not one of my favorite kites.

All the experienced sport kite fliers I've known over the years prefer to fly in soft winds often with UL kites. Tricking is just so much easier and fun on a light wind day than it is when the wind is up, even at 10mph. Which, is about the only wind speed that I actually like flying my vented Nirvana in.

Nowadays, I just hangout and socialize or go home when the wind is up. I fly for fun and pursue other hobbies when the conditions aren't what I like for kites. Simple as that.

Oh, and BTW, the Mini Gem is a great fun high wind kite.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2010, 11:42 AM »

High wind kites, whether vented or downsized are nice to have for the times when you just don't want to leave the field. The times when I'm unable to drag myself off the beach despite conditions have decreased over the years, but it still happens.

You just can't expect too much from a high wind kite. Or expect to do the same stuff in 20MPH wind you can do in 5MPH, regardless of kite.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2010, 01:39 PM »

heck...i just want Tim to start making a few single line kites again!!!!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2010, 02:26 PM »

heck...i just want Tim to start making a few single line kites again!!!!!!!

Post don't mean a thing without pictures...  Tongue   

Come on, Rob.  Drag them out.  You know you want to.  Wink

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 04:37 PM »


1 of 2 centipedes that Tim made....Jon Burkhardt has one and Tim has the other.....taken in 2002 at Newport...
Oldflyer has a picture somewhere of his Tim Benson Bee single line kite...it is nice!
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