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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2010, 03:25 AM »

Maybe a bit late for this thread, but you could check out AVS4You. Their licensing deal is that for a one-off fee you can use any of the software in their suite of programmes which includes video editing, video conversion, DVD authoring and a whole lot more. They currently have a 70% off offer of $59 (reduced from $199) until the end of January.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2010, 06:46 AM »

Those were nice programs as I recall, I had checked into all that a year ago when somebody pointed it out, maybe it was Roy then too.

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2010, 09:52 AM »

hi roy and funny how things work out.i actually already had avs4u i downloaded it when i first got into converting, for a device i owned at the time. anyway it is free to me, simple and seems to work well for converting from quicktime that my camera uses to any other format i want then i can edit with it and if that is not enough i can play around with pic editing also thanx again everyone KO
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2010, 12:16 PM »

I know that Benjai uses some more advanced tools, but they are not free.
Coming in a bit late on this topic I know, but FWIW, I started with windows movie maker, but upgraded to Adobe Premiere Elements 7. It has a few quirks, but basically it's as powerful as you'll ever need, and not super-expensive (about $100)... I do all my stuff on that...
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2010, 01:55 PM »

Free, but generally not on most people's radar.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2010, 04:38 PM »

Start with Windows Movie Maker.  You can do a lot with that.

Then if you want to go further start downloading demo versions.  There is a lot of software that is in the less than $100 range that is fantastic.  I did this in Dec. and learned a lot.  Some of the packages were not friendly some screwed up my computer and some worked fine.

I settled on Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 Platinum package.  That gave me a good movie package, audio package and a DVD burning package.

Key thing is to try out those free demos after you have a little experience on Move Maker which is a good package.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2010, 04:56 PM »

good advice i will give windows another try the reason i stopped was it doesnt work with MOV files that is not a problem anymore-- ben i will NEVER get to your level your vids are way nice
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 05:52 PM »

As others have said, it's hard to beat free and WMM is free. There are enough features to let you learn the basics of video editing like splitting clips, adding titles and transitions, capturing stills from video, adding music, basic special effects, video speed, etc.

Once you get that down, providing you "enjoy" spending countless hours sitting at your pc, you can upgrade to a better, full featured video editor. All those years ago when I started I chose Pinnacle and have upgraded every other time to the latest version. Not the best editor but it's what I know and I've got no time to fiddle with a different program now.

I tried that AVS4U for converting and did not like the results. I've used DivX for years and it does for me what I need it to which is to convert very large video files (1.5 gigs and up) to more manageable file sizes for internet upload.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2010, 07:44 PM »

I also started off with windows movie maker, then got into Roxio and Now I'm using Creator 2010 not sure if its the best, but it does just about everything you would ever need to do with video, Pics, Music, and converts everything to anything.
The only thing bad is if you do complete Manuel editing you better have some time to spend on it, can eat up a bunch of time on the computer.
This is the program I used on my Aerobe Video, there's actually 4 separate videos of that day and that's were I got the fly-a-way transition in this video, I could have spent a little more time with it and did a little better, (Technology and the Learning Process)

                                             
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2010, 10:55 AM »

ben i will NEVER get to your level your vids are way nice

Sure you will - I don't do anything particularly difficult, I just play with a bunch of settings as I go 'till it looks nice to me. Thanks for the compliment. One easy thing that makes a world of difference is to fit the music to the video. What I do is start with a target duration in mind. Then I edit down to that duration, and really I have to be quite brutal cutting out stuff that is "OK" but not really worth putting in (even then they still end up at least twice as long as they need to be). Then I go through my entire music library picking out tracks of about the right length, or sometimes I'll have a specific track in mind. If the mood and length of the track fit, you are off to a flying start. Don't believe the music makes a big difference? - take your favourite light wind video (Steve's TrickTail UL one is a good example to use) and then watch it muted while playing some hard dance or rave track. Your brain will struggle with the juxtaposition.

As others have said, it's hard to beat free and WMM is free. There are enough features to let you learn the basics of video editing like splitting clips, adding titles and transitions, capturing stills from video, adding music, basic special effects, video speed, etc.

Once you get that down, providing you "enjoy" spending countless hours sitting at your pc, you can upgrade to a better, full featured video editor.

Top advice there. You should stick with something free and simple until you find yourself unable to make it do what you want. I pretty quicky realised I wanted to do some more advanced stuff (multi-layering, keyframes, audio editing etc) and WMM wouldn't let me do it. So I trawled the web and read up on a bunch of editors which I downloaded the demo versions of. I clicked pretty much instantly with PE7 and so stuck with it. I got it with Photoshop elements 7 in a bundle for about $100. You should be aware though, that the more features an editor has, the more options it gives you and the more time it can take to edit things the way you want them. Of course, you can stick with the basic funcitons of the editor to save time, but then what's the point forking out the extra $ for the features you don't use.

For interest (perhaps), here's roughly how the time goes for me:
Fly and film 'till the batteries go flat giving 90 minutes of footage
Download the footage from the camera and get it into the editor  - 30 minutes
Watch it all  - 75 minutes (there's usually at least 15 minutes of blank sky to skip through)
Balance the clips for sound and picture (brightness etc) - 10 minutes
Chop up the clips into the good bits and cut out the crap - 180 minutes - gives about 15 minutes of footage
Preview this rough cut and cut another half out - 60 minutes - giving about 7 minutes of footage
Pick out opening and closing scenes - 15 minutes
Design opening title sequence and add closing sequence - 15 minutes
Select soundtrack, edit, balance and sequence with the video (requires more video editing) - 120 minutes
Add transitions - 10 minutes (I generally only use crossfade and dip-to-black)
Add effects - 60 minutes (optional)
Preview final cut - 5 minutes
Make final tweaks - 15 minutes
Render & export - 60 minutes (for standard def - double this for HD)
Check export file - 5 minutes

So for a 5 minute video from an hour and a half of footage, I need to set aside about 11 hours editing time   Shocked

Bottom line is this - if you want to make nice videos, you need to spend some time on it, and you need to enjoy doing it...
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2010, 10:27 AM »

Exactly.  And that is fun Benjai.

Making videos has doubled the pleasure of flying.

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