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« on: July 28, 2014, 06:07 PM »

As of late, I've added a few kites to my bag. So, while I was updating my kite page on the web, I thought it might be good if I include a full description of each sport kite along with the specs, etc. etc. So, I started collecting data and found that I lacked the history for each kite and where it was manufactured. So, what better place to get the history of certain kites than from the GWTWForum Connoisseurs. Many of you have been around kiting for many, many years. Below is a list of the kites I'd like some history about. I would be grateful for any historical facts you might be able to through in that's not on the web:

Skyburner NikNak - Who designed it, any history...

Prism 3D - When did Prism start making it, stop making it... versions and any history... made in the USA?

Prism 4D - Why did Prism replace the 3D with the 4D... history...

Sky Delights Jaws by Joel Schultz - When did Joel start making it, stop making in 2001? How many did he make... any history

Diving Lady by Crystal Kite Company - I got some history on this kite, but I don't know how many were made and when they started and stopped making it... any other history?

Prism Quantum - When did Prism start making it, any other history


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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 06:42 PM »

I have a Crystal Kites Diving Lady number 10, dated 12/91, so that gives an approximate start date, but I don't know how many were made.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 07:35 PM »

Can't speak for Prism, but was under the understanding that the 3D was redesigned and then changed to the new 4D.  There were a couple upgrades/changes that Prism wanted to incorporate into the 3D to improve the overall design and to make it more appealing to the end users. One of those things was a collapsible leading edge and spreaders.  The 3D used single length leading edge and lower spreader rods which made it quite cumbersome to carry around.  They went to a two piece leading edge and two separate lower spreaders to allow for the kite to fold down to a very nice compact size.  The sail and layout also went through various changes as did most of the fittings mostly for performance improvements and flight characteristics.  Prism originally was going to continue calling the kite the 3D but the changes were so profound that it warranted it's own new name: the 4D.  This also helped Prism, shops and end users associate replacement parts for this new kite separate from the older two designs of the 3D.  There is very little similarity from the 3D to the 4D other than they are both Prism's answer to indoor or ultra light wind flying kites.

Hope that helps.  Please correct me if I am wrong on any of this.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:17 PM »

My memory is that the 3D was introduced in 1996. the kite was made in Settle until 2003 at that time 3D was redesigned from the ground up. The 3D 2003 was just a shade bigger for more stability and lower wing loading, and a Tri-Axis bridle was added.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 03:54 AM »

Trip you should search here on the forum for a post from Lex (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=344) about the history of sport kites, I think you will enjoy it!

BTW sounds like you should get familiar with putting Prism kites website into the way back machine....or any kite website......
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 04:12 AM »

The other great resource for info on '90s kites is the rec.kites newsgroup. Archived and searchable on Google
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 12:44 PM »

The Skyburner Niknak is designed by Jon Trennepohl and Wayne Brunges, the same folks  that designed the Widow NG and Widow Maker and many other excellent kites by Skyburner.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 09:23 PM »

Well my Joel Sholz Jaws is now history...it`s going off to a new owner tomorrow actually....it`s boxed and ready to go...
It is signed and dated (12-1-99) but not numbered. Nor does another Neptune I have....it is signed and dated 2-2000 but again, not numbered.
I have a pair of matching Neptunes that are signed, dated AND numbered from 1992 so I don`t know when they stopped being numbered.

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I remember flying Jaws, Neptunes, and Kestrels in the mid 90`s but I didn`t get mine until the early to mid 00`s.
I think they were stopped being made by Sky Delight and then licensed to gfak in 2001....that`s another discussion....
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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 10:32 AM »

Thanks for the info everyone!
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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 01:08 PM »

BTW sounds like you should get familiar with putting Prism kites website into the way back machine....or any kite website......

thanks for this tip Thief.

Simple but I didn't think about using this one. I've just gone through some of the old BMK Site.   Great stuff!
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