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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2010, 12:52 PM »

Pam (the cooking spray, not Anderson) is silicon dioxide.
Pam is canola oil & water not silicon dioxide.  Wink

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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 09:47 PM »

Bow string wax?  If I remember correctly, isn't that bee's wax? Embarrassed
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2010, 09:14 AM »

I use silicon oil 350cp grade... cheap and thick... so will not make it so messy...

i apply it while winding the line...

first put abit at some used cloth and rub it...

result = very slick line... Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2011, 02:21 AM »

Hello all, i read this topic and was considering silicone spray to protect my lines and make them more slippery. i found this on the market here and would like to know your thoughts on it.

http://www.orapi-maintenance.com/en/fichestechniques/812-SILAL-GB.pdf

Thanks for any help.

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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2011, 10:40 PM »

Sorry to dredge this thread back to the top, but I've been wondering if any of you have ever tried AmorAll (for car care)? I use it as a mold release for the polymer clay stuff I do and it's slick as all get-out. Plus it's got the added UV protection and it cleans
whatever you rub it on. I've got a can of the same silicone Steve mentioned, but it feels like this stuff might work better.

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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 04:34 AM »

Sort of; similar to ArmorAll but a different brand aerosol silicon spray. I find the solvent in an aerosol helps it disperse on the lines without leaving a too thick coating.
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2011, 07:35 AM »

I would test ArmourAll on a piece of old completely trashed line first. It can damage even the plastics it's made to protect. I had heard the rumors before but I went ahead and put it onto an old sun damaged Naugahyde spare tire cover on a motor home once, it took it from pliable and still usable to the point that it shattered when bent in an hour. Fine for protecting new plastics, but test it first before putting it on old stuff that hasn't been treated before. I would be wary of what it might do to Spectra/Dyneema.

I washed and silicon treated an old set of Shanti lines once, I wasn't convinced the results were worth the effort and cost, they were whiter but I don't usually get more then 5-7 wraps and couldn't really tell a difference otherwise. I will add that those lines suffered from quite a bit of fuzzing from flying on fine sand while damp, lines without that type of damage may respond better.

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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2011, 08:06 AM »

ISTR the issue with ArmorAll sending rubber and plastics brittle is due to it dissolving oils and removing them from the material. There used to be lots of stories about the vinyl on car dashboards splitting and cracking.

Spectra is pretty inert and not oily, I've read stories of people soaking spectra in all sorts of chemicals like Deet etc. to see if they'd degrade. I'd guess the chances are it should be ok and if this is to refresh a set of tired lines its not as if there's a lot at stake.

All that said though, a set of new lines is better always Tongue
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2011, 05:32 PM »

Thanks Mike and Ian. If I ever get to the point of actually *needing* something for my lines, I'll go with the silicone.

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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2011, 06:31 PM »

NO armor all it is crap i live in a saltwater,sunny environment and use ONLY 303 Aerospace Protectant it is worth every penny buuuuut back to reconditioning lines ... use silicone spray as stated above
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2011, 06:40 PM »

NO armor all it is crap

lol.... yessir! ;-)
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2011, 07:24 AM »

NO armor all it is crap i live in a saltwater,sunny environment and use ONLY 303 Aerospace Protectant it is worth every penny buuuuut back to reconditioning lines ... use silicone spray as stated above

Yep, I can never remember the name of the 303 I always have to go find my bottle, it's all I use anymore also. Never tried it on lines but I don't think it would be better then silicon for adding back slipperiness. For plastics though it's not as sickenly greasy looking, has a great UV block and hasn't damaged anything I've used it on. I originally tried it because of a thread on adding back body, color and protection to worn kite fabrics over on Kitebuilder. I'm not convinced it really helped there but I loved it on my auto's and pool liner. Kent at Wind of Change posted another treatment for kite fabrics used by the Power Kiters on thier foils that sounded more promising for kite use, I forgot that name too though.

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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2011, 12:24 PM »

As "Line Maintenance" like you've pointed out the process is probably worthwhile, not so much in repairing my damaged the lines. Flying at the beach especially near the water on the wet sand gets your lines very sticky, and WSIKF sand is fine enough to work itself between fibers. I've noticed when flying near the water at Long Beach that the lines quickly get to the point that you feel the added drag with just a few wraps. I'm sure that along with neglect contributed to the fuzzy damage I experienced. Silicone would add some repellency from future moisture and dirt too if you frequently fly in those conditions.

I need to get a little more pro-active about that maintenance thing ... which reminds me ... which line set did I use at WSIKF two weeks ago?

 



 

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