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Author Topic: Doug Stout's Arrow Canard build (split off from the Stunt kite design tool)  (Read 194372 times)
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« Reply #525 on: November 07, 2016, 08:01 AM »

Attended for my first time the Olan and Bernice Turner International Invitational Open Peanut Butter Cookie Kite Fly and Bake Off on Sunday, November 6th, that ran from noon to 4 pm.  This is a great little informal kite festival on the Boardwalk in Seaside Park, New Jersey.  The event has been going on for 30 years.  When Olan and Bernice Turner couldnít run the event any more, they asked Mike and Celia Dallmer to take over.  Mike and Celia do a fantastic job.  There were about 15 of us there.  Lisa Willoughby won the kite portion of the very informal competition with a cute little indoor paper napkin kite of the Peanuts Gang.  I forget who won the peanut butter cookie portion of the event.  My peanut butter cookie chocolate chip brownies didnít place, but my family loved them.  Oh well.  I came to fly and just hang with good kite flying people.

The temperatures were in the high 50s, with an estimate wind speed of 15 to 17 mph by NOAA, out of the north northwest.  Due to the wind direction, the air was a little choppy coming over the shore homes and the dunes.  Without knowing the actual wind speeds, I did the unthinkable and put up my Bird of Prey (BOP) 96 with the stronger of the two frames (P100s/2PTs), which was designed for maximum wind speed of about 10 mph (my estimate).  I was going to fly my large Premier Red, White and Blue Rokkaku or my HQ Treczoks Cody, but I didnít want to get dragged down the beach.  I wanted to fly one of my patriotic kites, since we were within a few blocks of the pipe bomb explosion that happened on September 17, 2016.  Mike made each of the participants a little red, white and blue shaped peanut tail, out of ripstop nylon.  A few of us hung them off of the tail portions of our kites.

I detuned my BOP 96 by adding the longest nose weight I had and moved the bridle connection point forward 1 in.  I also added my old Dyna kite 1 in. wide and 60 ft. long tails to it, with red and blue on the tips and white for the center.  I switched to 250 lb. Dacron line to add drag.  Did I tell you we were launching off of the new board walk over the fenced in sand dunes?  That made it even more fun.  The BOP 96 flew well and stable.  The pull was light to moderate and the sail unloaded under the stiff wind.  It looked really cool with the three 60 ft. long tails.  I flew it for over an hour, and then brought it down on the beach.  Didnít want to land it in the fenced in dunes with the tails.  The PC-31 sail and frame were in great shape, with no damaged due to the excessive wind.  Not bad for a kite with 2,079 sq.in. of sail area, that only weighs 178 grams.  It actually flew better than the convention delta kites that were in the air.  When the wind would cycle low, the BOP 96 would glide to right over my head.  Didnít know the actual wind speeds until I checked it on NOAA this morning, which were brisk at 16 with gusts to 25 mph.  What was I thinking.  I will make up a stiffer frame and longer nose weight, in case I am foolish enough to trying that again in the future.

After that fun, Lisa Willoughby and I went down on the beach to fly multi-line kites.  Lisa flew one of her vented Revs.  I brought out my old 1995 8 ft. Raptor Dual Line Stunt Kites (my design), with the four adjustable vents.  Back in the day, I made it with state-of-the-art Shysharks, some of which were never placed on the market, like the hybrid composite center spine.  Wasnít going to break this frame or kite.  I had each of the four vents open half way.  Flew it on 140 ft. of 300 lb. spectra line, with a 100 ft. multi-colored tail that matched the sail (red, white, blue and black).  The tail was made for me by the late Sarge Cleaves.  The forward speed and line pull were perfect, and I had a blast for another hour.  It added some nice patriotic color to the air.

One of the most fun days I have had flying outdoors in a white.  Did tell Mike on a few occasions that I am a spooled kite flyer, since now I spend most of my time flying glider kites indoors or in low wind conditions on grass fields.  What is with this wind and sand stuff?

Yours in kiting,

Doug

Mike Dallmerís Red, White and Blue Peanut


Bird of Prey 96 surviving the 16 to 25 mph winds


Bird of Prey 96 surviving the 16 to 25 mph winds, dumping excessive wind from a gust


Bird of Prey 96 surviving the 16 to 25 mph winds with its happy pilot


Bird of Prey 96 surviving the 16 to 25 mph winds in the background


Bird of Prey 96 happy to be back on the ground with pilot and Celia Dallmer
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« Reply #526 on: November 07, 2016, 01:56 PM »

We can tell you were a first timer. Vets simply refer to the event as the OABTIIOPBCKF.  Cheesy
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« Reply #527 on: November 07, 2016, 02:12 PM »

You mean OABTIIOPBCKFABO.  Cheesy  Rookie only at that event.  Grin
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« Reply #528 on: November 17, 2016, 10:15 AM »

And then there were three.  Finally finished this Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle for Jose Sainz, of San Diego, CA.  It was a joy to test fly last night.  Going to miss working on this one.

Yours in kiting,

Doug



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« Reply #529 on: November 23, 2016, 07:59 AM »

May your Thanksgiving be filled with love, laughter and remembrances of good times with family and friends.  Happy Thanksgiving!


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« Reply #530 on: November 23, 2016, 09:33 PM »

Doug, I am seeing all your photos as broken links... did I miss some earlier discussion on how to see your pics?
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« Reply #531 on: November 24, 2016, 05:39 AM »

Sugarbaker,

The photo links are working for me on various devices.  Google may have had a short term problem.  Please try again.

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« Reply #532 on: December 05, 2016, 07:09 AM »

The following provides the link for the indoor performances at the Cherry Valley Kite Festival.  The Cherry Valley Kite Festival took place on September 23 and 24, 2016 in Cherry Valley, NY.  The videos include individual performances by Paul Berard, James Fletcher, Steve Santos, Doug Stout, Mike Stuligross, Fred Taylor and Scott Weider.  The videos also include a single line group performance with Paul Perard, Doug Stout, Mike Stuligross and Donna Taylor, and quad line group performance with Steve Santos, Fred Taylor and Scott Weider.  Thank you to Mike Stuligross who took the videos.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bwj9y_lTaMmFbmgtaWI3V0Z1U1k?usp=sharing

Yours in kiting,

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« Reply #533 on: December 21, 2016, 06:15 AM »

May the melody and spirit of the holidays fill your home with love and peace.  I wish you and your family all the best and a very happy New Year!



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« Reply #534 on: January 09, 2017, 05:41 PM »

My Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle Glider Kite is entered in the 2016 Kite of the Year!  There are eight kites entered in this competition.  I am making this post to encourage you (beg, grovel, etc.) to vote for my glider kite by posting a comment with my kite's number, which is Number 5, to the following Facebook link:

https://business.facebook.com/Fly-Market-Kitemaking-Supply-412778105544124/?business_id=498051343683466.

Please note that just clicking LIKE on the provided link does not count as a vote.  You can only vote one time.  Voting will take place until the end of January (January 31, 2017).

If I am fortunate enough to win, I will receive a $100 Fly Market Kitemaking Supply gift certificate.  Please share this with your friends!  Thank you.

The following provides a few pictures of this glider, which development was presented on this great forum.  To demonstrate the capabilities of this glider kite, the following link shows it flight, under the very skilled hands of Jose Sainz, in the Convention Center at the 2016 Wildwood International Kite Festival:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwj9y_lTaMmFZmxfWW92RlgyN3M/view?usp=sharing

Front View


Rear View


Front View with the Sunlight behind the Sail


In Flight under the very skilled hands of Jose Sainz



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« Reply #535 on: January 18, 2017, 08:37 AM »

Back working on the fourth Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle.  This one is for Tom White, who makes the great aluminum templates, aluminum winders and Delrin joiners for me.  Without his aluminum templates, this version of the Bird of Prey would be very difficult to build.  The following shows a few pictures of Tom's glider kite in process.
 
I also included a picture of my squadron of Bird of Prey 18s.  The two on the left are the original versions made with white Cuben fabric.  The one in the middle is made with blue Cuben fabric, where it weighs a little more and fly's a little faster.  The two on the right are demo versions made with orange Cuben fabric, for others to play with at kite festivals.  The Bird of Prey 18s made with the white or orange Cuben fabric each weigh 1.3 grams, and have a sail loading of 0.09 oz./sq.ft. of sail area.   The one made with the blue Cuben fabric weighs a little more at 1.7 grams, and has a sail loading of 0.118 oz./sq.ft.  As a point of reference, the sail loading for the blue one and an iFlite are the same.  As you can see in the picture, I can use different PC31 colors for the wing tip and tail reinforcements.  I also can use black or white Dacron for the nose reinforcement.

If you have not done so, please read my prior post and vote for one of the kites for "2016 Kite of the Year", following the provided link and instructions.  If you have or are going to vote for my Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle, thank you!  The deadline for voting is January 31, 2017.

Yours in kiting,

Doug

Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle - PC31 Panels, Stars and Wing Spar Sleeves Cut Out


Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle - Stars glued onto the Blue Panel


Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle - Stars sewn onto the Blue Panel


Bird of Prey 18 - Doug's Squadron





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« Reply #536 on: January 18, 2017, 06:30 PM »

Yippie I can't wait to fly this bad boy.
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« Reply #537 on: Yesterday at 06:59 AM »

Making some more progress on Tom's Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle.  The following picture shows the red and white striped panels glued together.  Next step is to glue these striped panels and the tail to the large blue panel with the stars, then sew them together.

Yours in kiting,

Doug

Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle - PC31 Striped Panels Glued Together



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« Reply #538 on: Today at 11:44 AM »

Making some more progress on Tom's Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle.  The following picture shows the blue and striped panels glued together.  Starting to look like the Bird of Prey.  Next step is to sew them together, then work on the two panels for the nose.

Yours in kiting,

Doug

Bird of Prey 76 Patriotic Eagle - PC31 Blue and Striped Panels Glued Together
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