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Author Topic: I broke my 3PT yesterday...  (Read 1774 times)
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« on: March 31, 2010, 09:28 AM »

I broke my 3PT - the break point is extremely close to the stand-off connector near the spine. I think I pull too hard while doing yoyo. It looks like the leader line cut through it. Is there any way to prevent future cut through on the LS ?
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 10:10 AM »

Leaders should keep the line from cutting through at least on single wraps unless you do some really long leaders...
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 10:27 AM »

Sorry...a litte correction. It was cut by the leader line(150LB). Not the flying line.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 11:19 AM »

Use moonie tape - protects both the bridle and the spreader.  Over time, the bridle hitting all the time will wear out both. 

First, the rings on the spar cut the bridle.  Then eventually, the bridle will wear down the spar as it smoothes those ridges and then starts cutting in.  Moonie tape greatly slows both these issues.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 11:31 AM »

How old was the 3PT?
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 12:00 PM »

The 3PT is fairly new and very low mileage. I breifly using it in the SD SUL. I bought the spar last year(September).
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 03:18 PM »

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First, the rings on the spar cut the bridle.

I  don't know why SkyShark wraps their rods that way. I got lucky and picked up a few pair of their Reverse Wrap. No wear as the leader line slides toward the LLE connector.

Hint..take a PT rod, anysize, run your finger nali from fat end to skinny. Feel the sharp "bumps". Now go the other way...almost smooth... Grin
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 04:45 PM »

Or you can just get the Nitro's and not worry bout it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 05:11 PM »

I saw some 5pts this weekend with the nitro sanded finnish,Is this new? I haven't seen any before.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 05:17 PM »

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Or you can just get the Nitro's and not worry bout it.
The Nitro will prolong the life of the bridle lines but not preventing leader line cut through the lower spreader.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 05:27 PM »

Skyshark makes a black diamond version of their tapered spars, including the 3PT. The spar is totally smooth and has a gloss finish. It's got basically the same specs as the normal 3PT.

The nitro is an entirely different spar, more akin to a avia G-force tapered spar.

Honestly I don't think that wear on skyshark rods is much of an issue. I've got lower spreaders that have been worn totally smooth and have never had a failure with any of them. They are not invincible though. I've had plenty of spars that I broke before they got to that state. All I'm saying is it takes many bridles worth of wear to even start to weaken the spar. Spars break. That's just the nature of kites. A fluke breakage every now and then is not uncommon.

If you do the same thing again and break another spar, I'd rethink how you're doing the trick. I wouldn't worry about it unless you start breaking more though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 07:33 PM »

I have noticed some wear on one of my LS. I can't remember which kite it was though. I want to say it was the Zephyr, but it might have been one of the others. I had quite a few out when I noticed it. But it wasn't deep at all and I didn't really give it much thought.
I know Steve has Moonie tape and I guess I need to think about getting some if it will help.

Will, does the Saber II have Skyshark rods or something else? I have forgotten what you use on them...
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 07:45 PM »

black diamond IMO is the only way to go for spreaders on kites that use pt i just wish they would make it in 2pt but was told it is not going to happen anytime soon  anybody know of something smooth in the 2 pt range as a replacement ??
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 08:02 PM »

I love skyshark spars - durable and I don't have to rob a bank to afford them. Saves a lot on legal fees Grin
Spars do randomly break at times. I remember last ODSKC when a saber had a 5PT LS break in straight flight. It hadn't suffered much wear or anything else that should have compromised it. Whenever you fly a kite you risk damaging it. There's no bomb proof way around that.

Icone spars are smooth. The yellow is about the same weight as a 2PT, although I bet they have wildly different flex curves. They are also very high $$ spars.

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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 08:53 PM »

Dude, stuff breaks. Get some spares and keep 'em in your kite bag. Put together a kite tool kite and take with you so you can handle the rod replacement quickly and get back in the air.

Don't over analyze. Sure, those rods are not totally smooth but it's not something to worry a great deal about. If you want to worry about something pick up a SUL framed in 2pt's.  Wink
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