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Author Topic: Converting A Barrel Roll Into A Backspin  (Read 886 times)
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« on: April 21, 2010, 01:24 PM »

I've done this on a few kites. It seems to work better on the newer weighted kites.

Basically, you do an accelerating multi-barrel roll. As the kite spins faster and faster, the barrel roll converts into a backspin (spine around 30° downward) and the kite starts rising.

Rising Tornado?

Don't know if we've discussed this before.

I'm sure many of you have done the "Rising Tornado", but it was new to me.  Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 08:09 PM »

So then the backspin rises?  I've done a tornado launch, but never a barrel roll to a rising backspin... Sounds awesome!  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 10:27 PM »

Yes, the backspin rises, but the kite has to be spinning very quickly. It's probably rotating slightly over 1 rotation/second.

I've done this on the Ocius (Sniper) prototype at KP8 and on an Easy Light in very low wind. The larger kites don't seem to rise as quickly because the rotational speed is less.

Give it a shot. Let me know.

I'd have thought others had already done this or I'd call it the chilese™.  Wink Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 08:43 AM »

I've toyed around with converting barrel rolls to backspins, and vice versa.
I've found the main difference (for me) is the 1) the timing and force of the pulls, and 2) the amount of slack with the "off hand".

If I have a barrel roll going, I start giving more slack to the off hand and making sharper, "poppier" pulls with more slack between pops. 
On the other hand (and more common in my flying) is slowing down a backspin and adding a bit of tension to the off hand, resulting in a barrel roll. 

YMMV
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 11:34 AM »

Tornado launch for me on the talon works well

The Chilese rise as well but not alot of slack on the off hand line   Grin Grin but the spins are not so flat , which would explain the Chilese Rise

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