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« on: April 14, 2010, 11:51 AM »

 Any recommendations for a good kite to lend to people who want to try? I'm currently flying a Deep Space, which has stood up to a lot of abuse from me so far, but I don't want to push my luck with people who don't have any kite-saving instincts yet.

 Is the Beetle still the best bet as far as indestructibility (while still being some fun to fly) goes?
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 11:57 AM »

Quantum.


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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 11:58 AM »

I would buy something off the for sale list.  THere' several kites there at great prices and very durable... or use rods that can be replaced at a decent price.  For me, it was a Jam Session.  Never broke a leading edge, but went thru lower spreaders and eventually needed a nose job.  Though duct tape worked for a while.  I prefered the full size kite over something small like the beatle.  Full size gives a decent pull and is a little slower.  Currently I have a Big Bang for my beater/loaner kite.

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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 12:20 PM »

Do you mean loan, as in, for a week or two?

If so, the Quantum would be a good choice.

If you mean while they learn to fly for the next 10 minutes, teach them and let them fly whatever kite you have on the lines. It takes less time and you can explain why that kite costs as much as it does.

I always teach newbies on whatever kite is on the end of my lines at the time. Last time it was the Opium Special Edition.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 12:49 PM »

there is a couple good loaner kites in swapmeet right now both big bang and new jam at good prices  50.00
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 03:51 PM »

quantum or beetle you will like the beetle fun little kite not as much pull as the quantum
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 04:06 PM »

I have  Trlby's that I will pull out for new fliers, (have been teaching with them for 30+ years. The kite is larger so control is easier to learn, the kite is nearly indestructible, and the cost is very reasonable.  If you need some (new ones) check with Charly
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 10:23 PM »

Quantum, as a new flier Rhonda never got the hang of it with the Beetle she purchased when she didn't want to break my kites, she bought a Quantum the next year and had it down in minutes, big, slow & steady makes a perfect trianer.

TRLBY's were great in their day, that's what I learned on, but parts are nowhere to be found now, although I never broke one parts availability is a concern.

Another thread here pointed out that there are a couple Premier Trick n Tracks on an auction site with no reserve, IMO they would be a great trainer too.

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 05:32 AM »

My Nighthawk is built like a tank. Probably the main thing is that it's built tough. I was teaching my 13 year old last weekend with my vented xt.r. She did a lot of nose plants but no damage.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 11:50 AM »

I have a Beetle set up for 1st time users. I be sure to tell them that they _are_ going to crash it and this is expected... I also tell them if they don't I'm going to be mad as it's what I did.  Smiley

I don't know that the Beetle can be broken. Perhaps... but you'd have to try real hard.

Only draw back is that it's not a mid or full sized kite.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 12:17 PM »

i start people on a smaller foil....it will come out when there is enough wind for it...and that means enough wind to keep the beginner's attention.....
they will not be ale to break it....and most people when starting enjoy the pull and speed of a foil...
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 07:01 PM »

 Thanks for the pointers; I guess I should clarify what I'm looking for, which is, in an ideal world, a kite that I can lend to children (nephews/nieces, 6/8 years old) to play with, with some basic guidance about getting started.

 This means something that's _really_ indestructible.. I already have sturdy kites of my own; Box of Tricks, Midi, New Jam (though that has a lot of standoffs to lose), should all stand up to a fair bit of abuse, but I'm really hoping for something with solid spars rather than tubes just to give it that extra bit of help.

 The Quantum looks like they've put a lot of effort into making it hard to kill and adding engineering where it's most helpful for that -- but it has mylar panels, and ever since having the central mylar panel shred into bits on my Ozone a while ago, I've steered clear of that.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 08:09 PM »

Thanks for the pointers; I guess I should clarify what I'm looking for, which is, in an ideal world, a kite that I can lend to children (nephews/nieces, 6/8 years old) to play with, with some basic guidance about getting started.

 This means something that's _really_ indestructible..

Then Mike hit it on the head, The TRLBY was the perfect kite, a few still out there, the Kite Classified link on the right will take you to Charly's site where he has some. Hot glue the custom end pieces to the spars so they don't get lost.

If you or the kids can break one other then the center connector we'll figure out a prize for you.  Wink

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