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Author Topic: Is There A Close Second To The Revolution Kites?  (Read 19034 times)
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 06:04 PM »

another big thing during the early 90's was the east coast/west cost split.
revolution = west coast
guildworks = east coast

also do not leave out TC Ultras!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 06:43 PM »

I have flown several other quads.

I wouldn't even think of trying to get in line in a team fly with any of them.   Not one.
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 09:41 PM »

What about the pig?!

Flying Pig - A quad revolution-like kite


I heard Rev has parts made in Mexico and shipped for final assem. in US. True/False?
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 09:46 PM »

I remember the TC Ultra people, back in the day, making the argument that other designs were pretty much excluded, or at least handicapped, by the Rev-bias of the compulsory figures.  

Doesn't seem to be too much different amongst dual-liner ranks either.................
Oh yes there is. I don't think I've ever heard of a quadline team that doesn't fly "Revs" (note the inverted commas) but the teams at the WSKC aren't showing the same uniformity.

If the call went out for "the best dualline kite" there could be many right answers. I reckon the answer from the quadline community would merely be a discussion of which Rev was better than another.

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another big thing during the early 90's was the east coast/west cost split.
revolution = west coast
guildworks = east coast

also do not leave out TC Ultras!!!!

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 09:56 PM »

Call me crazy, but I always thought that a big round model might be fun.  I guess it would need a big arrow on it so that you could tell what end is up, but I would think that hovering would be a snap!  Smiley

Or perhaps Chilese's trash-bag rectangular (or was it square?) quadline.  Anyone still got the video link?

Anyhow, the unique key to the Rev design seems to be the "flex" in the design - for example, you can have one side pulled forward while having the other side pushed back. In effect, you have many vectors of control that other 4-line kites just don't offer.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2010, 01:30 AM »

I always liked this one...

A Mouse Pointer in the real World




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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2010, 01:43 AM »

Although not even close to a rev, I really like my Parastunter quad foil. It's 1.4 meters of fun. Flies like a duelly, unbreakable, tricks sorta like a rev but with the ability to collapse the sail at will, which the rev can't do unless it does a figure 9 Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2010, 09:49 AM »

One difference that nobody has seemed to pick up on in this thread is pretty straight forward.

Almost without exception, the other quads are all pretty much symmetrical in their flight. Flying them forwards and backwards is really much the same thing. They are equally adept in either direction. Revs are very different beasts in this way, forward flight and reverse flight are don't behave in the same manner at all.

The point with respect to the compulsory figures is dead on tho, they are weighted towards Revs for the most part though, "most" quads can work their way through these without any issue, but, ya, they'd be a bit of a handful to pull off on a TC Ultra.

Personally, I enjoy flying any of the quads out there, but, obviously I have a huge preference towards revs...  :-)
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2010, 09:58 AM »

Rev is the Microsoft of the kite world
it's not necessarily the best made or the prettiest, but it's what most people use
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2010, 10:35 AM »

Almost without exception, the other quads are all pretty much symmetrical in their flight.
Apart from the Flame.

And the Kamikaze Butterfly.

And the.... etc. etc.

Mike.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2010, 04:09 PM »

there is a close second to a Rev.......
Your Second Rev....
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2010, 10:33 PM »

The point with respect to the compulsory figures is dead on tho, they are weighted towards Revs for the most part though, "most" quads can work their way through these without any issue, but, ya, they'd be a bit of a handful to pull off on a TC Ultra.
A bit like dual line compulsories being weighted toward deltas, being overly difficult or impossible on flexifoils or diamonds. Smiley

I'm just saying.
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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2010, 10:38 PM »

I was just mentioning.. Course, then you have a guy like Dennis Smith who did extremely well flying the TC's.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2010, 11:45 PM »

Call me crazy, but I always thought that a big round model might be fun.  I guess it would need a big arrow on it so that you could tell what end is up, but I would think that hovering would be a snap!  Smiley
Sedgwick did this with his YFO (original - and better version of the UFO)...

He has little colored arrow shapes so he can keep track of orientation.

Not much for fine control, but it's a hell of a lot of fun to watch him work with them. Smiley

I can't seem to find a vid at the moment, sorry.
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2010, 10:35 AM »

A bit like dual line compulsories being weighted toward deltas, being overly difficult or impossible on flexifoils or diamonds. Smiley

I'm just saying.
Anyone can make a delta. Flexifoil made several. Even Trlby made them.

Only one company can make a Rev. OK, several companies make "Revs" but.... only one should.

Mike.
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