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Author Topic: What are the basic stunt kite tricks ? How many of them in total ?  (Read 2780 times)
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« on: April 16, 2010, 01:16 PM »

Tooooooo little time and toooooo many tricks.
It is getting tiring.  Cry Cry Cry

I knew now Duplex and Lewis are made up of a combinations of basic tricks.

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 01:38 PM »

Everything starts with at least two larksheads. From there it's all down hill.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 02:23 PM »

"Collect them all! Trade them with your friends!"

While trick flying has been codified to a certain extent, there needs to be a certain amount of individualism applied to learning the lexicon.

No amount of description can ever really get to the heart of the matter.

I am reminded of Andy Preston's approach to teaching; something along the lines of "I am not going to explain how to do it, because everyone is different, but there are things you look for.." Horrible paraphrasing, but the general gist he was getting at is there.

It's the nature of the beast. Everyone has their own style, their own way of getting the job done.

It's never done. It's never finished. Just when you've caught up there is something new to figure out.

Some get tired of trying to stay current. Some very good fliers get to a point where they are not motivated to continue expanding their repertoire.

It's what makes it interesting to me however.

It is not just about knowing all the accepted tricks.

Ranking yourself and other fliers, okay, but appreciation for good flying and taking the inspiration is more important IMO.

It's the process. It's the flow.

You have to look within at some point, not just wait for enlightenment from above: do what you do as it were.

Not the question asked?

Oh well.

Sorry.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 03:20 PM »

there is a couple, who come out on our friday flies who fly mefm pairs or rev pairs. in either case they're an absolute joy to watch. they have beautiful rhythm and a grace to their flying not replicated by other attendees (sry jhn). meanwhile i'm busy with my flippity floppity tricks having a great time, but i in no way consider myself able to fly as well as they do.

as long as you're having fun, you're doing it right.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 06:00 PM »

This is about as good a list of "basics" as I can think of.

http://reeddesign.co.uk/tricks/index.html

Not that all of them are easy, but they are pretty commonly done (or attempted) all over.

You could take a lot of these moves out of the realm of "basics" by changing entry, exit, rotations, directions, wind conditions, and context.

Context is key. Flow any three of these moves together fluidly and you are beyond the basics. Do the same move over and over and you're stuck in a rut.

As others have said, quality over quantity.

I've been flying for 12 years and I can only do 6 of the things on that list well enough that I'm proud of they way I do 'em. Another 4 that I do all the time but poorly. Another 4 that I try sometimes just for giggles. That's only 14 out of 25 that I could honestly say "I can do that". There are 8 on the list I've never even tried.

So, focus on having fun not learning every trick in the book. I enjoy flying more now than ever, and the only new thing I've learned in the last few years is the Rolling Susan (works good on a lot of old skool kites).
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 06:06 PM »

Everything starts with at least two larksheads. From there it's all down hill.
Randy that is a great quote!!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 08:46 PM »

allen, watching you fly is an inspiration and jim thank you
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 09:37 PM »

Our friends over at "The Other Place™" did a Trick Wiki with some nice indexes and info, I thought they had a flow chart type thing attempting to group tricks into like categories also but I didn't find that, It branched off of the basic tricks adding the variations and combo's, I think that might be what you're looking for. I'll bet Mike (Zippy8) will post it up when he awakens.

Trick Wiki Here

A little old but Pete Peters original definitive listing of tricks & howto's is still up also Here

edit: think I found the flowchart thing here http://www.mindmeister.com/maps/show_public/4766744

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 09:42 PM »

Thanks... 

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 10:09 PM »

And Thanks to Roy for putting that together.


This is about as good a list of "basics" as I can think of.

http://reeddesign.co.uk/tricks/index.html

Not that all of them are easy, but they are pretty commonly done (or attempted) all over.

You could take a lot of these moves out of the realm of "basics" by changing entry, exit, rotations, directions, wind conditions, and context.

Context is key. Flow any three of these moves together fluidly and you are beyond the basics. Do the same move over and over and you're stuck in a rut.

As others have said, quality over quantity.

I've been flying for 12 years and I can only do 6 of the things on that list well enough that I'm proud of they way I do 'em. Another 4 that I do all the time but poorly. Another 4 that I try sometimes just for giggles. That's only 14 out of 25 that I could honestly say "I can do that". There are 8 on the list I've never even tried.

So, focus on having fun not learning every trick in the book. I enjoy flying more now than ever, and the only new thing I've learned in the last few years is the Rolling Susan (works good on a lot of old skool kites).
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2010, 05:03 AM »

think I found the flowchart thing here http://www.mindmeister.com/maps/show_public/4766744


This is something I have been looking for.  A progression of tricks to learn.  Could this be used as a sticky here?  Maybe Wisdom of the Ages?
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2010, 09:33 AM »

I'll bet Mike (Zippy8) will post it up when he awakens.
Actually I'd forgotten all about it  Embarrassed Work on the TrickyWiki kinda stalled a while back. It is a wiki though so more people can contribute.

The mindmap thingy is a good roadmap but I'm not sure if it is definitive. An excellent place to start though.

Mike.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2010, 02:11 PM »

You know the rules, there are no rules.you can just about learn the tricks any way you want, as long as it makes you happy.
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