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« on: April 29, 2010, 09:11 AM »

need advice whit SUL .which one??
fearless ?
nirvana ?
or Huh??         
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 09:33 AM »

My favorite SUL for tricks is the Fearless SUL. My goto kite when nothing else will fly is my Prism Ozone. It's just a little limitted in the tricks dept, though.
The Exile UL could be considered a SUL by most terms, and it's a great kite, as well.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 10:29 AM »

My flying pal has a Fearless SUL and STD. He tricks his SUL just like the Fearless STD and it looks so good.

I would say you should buy a F SUL. It will be your first and last SUL. Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 12:57 PM »

Save some $ in the long run, get the Fearless, and you will never need or want another SUL... Cool
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 05:08 PM »

It depends what you want a SUL for. 

A Pro Dancer SUL will fly in much lower wind (or lack of) than almost any other kite, but it won't trick apart from flat spins, axels and fades.

HQ Shadow will have stronger pull on the lines than most ULs in a given wind, and it is pretty tricky.

Fearless SUL is a very well made and popular kite.  I bought one based on its reputation, and sold it a week later - just not what I was looking for in a SUL.

I'm still looking...
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 07:57 PM »

It depends what you want a SUL for. 

A Pro Dancer SUL will fly in much lower wind (or lack of) than almost any other kite, but it won't trick apart from flat spins, axels and fades.

HQ Shadow will have stronger pull on the lines than most ULs in a given wind, and it is pretty tricky.

Fearless SUL is a very well made and popular kite.  I bought one based on its reputation, and sold it a week later - just not what I was looking for in a SUL.

I'm still looking...


Just curious, how much air time did you give the Fearless in that week?
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 08:57 PM »

Just curious, how much air time did you give the Fearless in that week?

Enough to know he didn't like it?

Try a Cosmic TC SUL.  Wink

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 09:03 PM »

Just curious, how much air time did you give the Fearless in that week?

Enough to know he didn't like it?

Try a Cosmic TC SUL.  Wink

Denny

I believe it wouldn't take that long.

Oh, and the Cosmic SUL goes by Ghost.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 09:04 PM »

New School:

See above.

Old School:

Benson InnerSpace.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 04:05 AM »

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Fearless SUL is a very well made and popular kite.  I bought one based on its reputation, and sold it a week later - just not what I was looking for in a SUL.

I'm still looking...

Just curious, how much air time did you give the Fearless in that week?

About 30 minutes
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 05:26 AM »

I am also curious to know what were  you looking for, if i may ask ? 
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 08:12 AM »

Pro Dancer SUL (old school for when nothing else will fly)
Zerostar (my favorite SUL)
Fearless SUL (for tricks, if I ever get bored with the axeling the Zerostar)

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 08:36 AM »

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Fearless SUL is a very well made and popular kite.  I bought one based on its reputation, and sold it a week later - just not what I was looking for in a SUL.

I'm still looking...

Just curious, how much air time did you give the Fearless in that week?

About 30 minutes

Sometimes you know first flight, I've experienced that. We all have our preference  on how a kite should feel & react. I don't like oversteer & I don't like a kite that falls nose forward after a trick in lower winds, others like those features and can exploit them to roll into the next trick. I'm too slow so they hinder me.

YMMV
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 08:52 AM »

I think glider hit the nail on the head - it depends on what you want to do with the kite and how you like to fly.

For low winds, I fly the Fearless SUL, Shadow, and iTrix depending on how I feel like flying at the time.  They are all great kites IMO, they just completely different.

My best advice is to scour the net and watch video of what people do with the kites that you are interested in.  If you like what you see, then get that one.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 11:17 AM »

I have replaced my Shadow with the Widow Maker UL.  It does amazingly well in the light or near zero winds.  It may not be a direct replacement for the Innerspace - but for me it comes incredibly close.  It is very trickable and fairly easy to fly in 1-2 mph with minimal work**.  With the tail weight out and US removed you can fly it in winds that are virtually non-existent (.5 mph ish??).  I have had the WM UL out when others were flying their Innerspace.  For true zero winds, the Innerspace is the ticket but it is only capable of maybe 2-3 tricks.  In 3mph winds, the WM UL is a dream to fly and can do more than I am capable of - and does them extremely well!

**Now - minimal work means that you are not running backwards but you are still moving your feet.  I feel that if you can pump the kite up fairly easy with a step or two backwards and then do a decent glide to get back to (or further) than you started then the kite is flyable.  I don't run with my kites - although with my belly size I probably should. Smiley

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