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« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2010, 04:23 PM »

Serge! Look at what you started! Huh
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2010, 04:47 PM »

some  time  it  is  just  best  to   go fly  a kite   so everyone  just  go fly one of  your  kites  and  smile
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« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2010, 04:49 PM »

Steve is selling this kite for $65 shipped

http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=3106.0;topicseen

Like I said, man not kite.

Made in China and all that...
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« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2010, 04:40 AM »

First off, let's make sure we all know that there is only an SUL when the maker decides to make a kite lighter than their UL.  It means little or nothing, esp. when most standards will overlap with the wind range of both the SUL and UL.  It's very rare that the SUL, UL, and standard are all essential kites.  Most sets I own (and those of dutch pilots I call friends) are UL and standard, or SUL and standard. 

If you mean literally flying in zero wind, good luck.  1000 answers...all not quite ideal.  Flying in zero wind is a compromising situation regardless of the stunt kite of choice.  Here, you will need to learn how to make it fun by practicing alot in these conditions.  You will NEVER find a true SUL stunt kite than is as fun to pump and trick as it's standard buddy is to fly and trick in wind.  This kite would need to stretch the laws of physics.

If you mean flying in some wind...anything where smoke from a cigarette moves away from you in a predictable direction...loads of UL's will fly well.  This is much more pilot dependent than kite dependent, given a reasonably good SUL/UL kite.

Be careful:  Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking that a particular/special SUL will give you a significant number of additional days on the field flying.  IT WON'T.  Practice with any decent SUL will get you what you want.  If it is the compliment to your standard, even better.


What part of this is anything but smack on point, dead on balls accurate??  Do I not state 'more pilot dependent than kite dependent'??  Do I not tell him the honest truth...that practice in SUL conditions will make you better, regardless of the kite you choose?  Are there really any experienced fliers who believe that zero wind and low wind flying are the same?  Then what are we on about?  Wouldn't you advise him to buy the SUL that is related to the standard he likes best??  If not, what then?  Learn two or more kites while learning the basics?

I have not flown a Fearless, but I have seen video.  I can tell you that I have also not flown a Vendetta SUL, but that video is INFINITELY more convincing than the Fearless SUL video posted here.  At least in that video, the wind is SUL wind.

One more time for the cheap seats:  Doing a comete to the ground on a UL with some wind is NOTHING unusual at all.  Get over it.  There are literally hundreds of members of this forum who could do that on their respective ULs.  It's not allowed to say, *How many SULs can do that* because the answer is ALL OF THEM!  Sheez.

Fliers post replies whenever developing fliers make claims based on inexperience and glee, rather than measured enthusiasm.  This topic always brings out the crazies.  The Fearless is an expensive, well made, and in the eyes of some, beautiful stunt kite that does everything all the others do while specifically making the insane L/R the easiest trick beside the nose plant.

Like the DS, Nirvana, Cosmic, Vendetta, Sea Devil, and others...it's arguably the best stunt kite in the world. 

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« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2010, 06:03 AM »

Define what a SUL kite is - GWTW thread number 4006. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2010, 09:06 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2010, 02:30 AM »

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Is this funny because you think it's not true?  If so, it's this 'attitude' (untempered by your inexperience) that leads to threads full of frustration regarding SUL/ULs. 

If you can't comete, how would you ever know? 

If you don't have several SUL/ULs, how would you ever know?

I can't comete cascade well, but I guarantee in the conditions in the video, on a Nirvana SUL, Essence UL, SD light, DS UL, and several other kites I would be able to comete in one direction just fine.

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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2010, 03:27 AM »

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No. You misunderstanding me.
After your comments, I did more searching in the youtube and saw a few more videos regarding other great SUL. Yes, they do fly and trick in very low wind.
Thanks for your advices in helping me to widen my 'field of visions'.

My Comete is still under construction. I got a very consistant first 3 inputs only. One direction only. I cracked through 1.5 rotation only once. What's give ?
   

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Shanti 100ft./90Lbs.(back-up)
Shanti 102ft./150Lbs. flying line sets
Slate color beat-up Fearless STD(Fearless SUL US, 3PT LS) - Main tricking kite
White Fearless STD(5PT) - Back up kite
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« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2010, 11:50 PM »

You are looking for a sul? Looks this! Wink

K2 SUL by Challenger Sails - First flight.
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« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2010, 05:57 AM »

Nice tricky SUL ......  Tongue  Tongue  Tongue
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« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2010, 06:10 AM »

Nice flying David.  Cool

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« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2010, 07:44 AM »

Judging from my experinces with the K2 the SUL would be the one to get.

Too bad I will never need a SUL....
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« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2010, 11:13 AM »

Thanks guys! Smiley

Here you can find info about this kite: *challengerkites.com*



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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2010, 08:45 PM »

This is a mouthwatering kite.  Tongue Cheesy Wink

Thanks for the video.  Kiss
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Skywatch 1 wind meter
Climax Protec 100ft./55Kg.
Shanti 100ft./90Lbs.(back-up)
Shanti 102ft./150Lbs. flying line sets
Slate color beat-up Fearless STD(Fearless SUL US, 3PT LS) - Main tricking kite
White Fearless STD(5PT) - Back up kite
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