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« on: September 17, 2017, 01:25 PM »

Not only can I NOT Taz; I don't even know the rules of the FAA 101.

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 04:16 PM »

Don't worry too much, FAA part 101 regulations only apply to kites, balloons,and rockets. A paramotor is an ultralight aircraft, falling under FAA part 103.  Part 101 seems to imply that kites under 5 lbs aren't even regulated. So, your big inflatables, maybe. 150 ft altitude seems to be the point where laws might come to bear. I flew for over a decade in Monterey, 1. in full sight of the airport, and 2. in the popular north headed beach departure lane. Never had any issue or confrontation. I wouldn't recommend going out of your way to piss anyone off Grin  Oxnard park seems like kind of a dumb place to try to land a paramotor, what with all the palm trees and residences.  Did he run out of gas, or just ideas?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 09:13 AM »

I won't get into the ongoing discussion about FAA part 101 regs. but I will say this.  Almost every public area where we fly kites will have the equivalent of a "dangerous game" code.  This code authorizes the local authorities e.g. park rangers to determine whether or not your kite flying is "dangerous" at any given point in time.  This of course makes it very subjective. I've seen this subjectivity in action and as "unfair" or inconsistent as it may seem there is little recourse.  As Lee suggests,  best not incur the ire. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2017, 09:41 AM »

Did he run out of gas, or just ideas?
No, he didn't run out of gas. Like I said, one of the Pilots was 76 years old and this was a convenient place to take off and land. He was parked in the parking lot near the grass, which made it easy for him to carry all of his gear back and forth to his Van. I can totally understand all of this, because of my age. Although, I think he should have known the rules of FAA 103 and never should have been at this park to begin with. But then again, maybe I should have known the FAA 101 rules and shouldn't have been here either. The Air Operations officials came over and talked to Max and I and told us we needed to keep our kites at or below tree level. We said ok and continued flying.   
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2017, 09:50 AM »

I won't get into the ongoing discussion about FAA part 101 regs. but I will say this.  Almost every public area where we fly kites will have the equivalent of a "dangerous game" code.  This code authorizes the local authorities e.g. park rangers to determine whether or not your kite flying is "dangerous" at any given point in time.  This of course makes it very subjective. I've seen this subjectivity in action and as "unfair" or inconsistent as it may seem there is little recourse.  As Lee suggests,  best not incur the ire. 
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I agree with everything you say. In the summer time there is a constant flow of beach goers walking from the parking lot through the grass area. In all honesty this can be very dangerous. I usually go fly during the week and not much traffic with school in session. The grass park area is nice, but when I go back I am going to walk a couple hundred more yards on down to the beach where I will probably get cleaner and a lot more steady winds.
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