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Author Topic: Zephyr / Exile / Hydra ?  (Read 3745 times)
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« on: May 21, 2010, 10:16 AM »

         I am new to kiting and this forum. I have been flying for about six weeks for 5- 10 hrs a week with my two boys. We live about a half hour from the beach and I have a useable soccer field near my home. At this point the youngest is flying a Nexus with tail and is quite satisfied. My oldest started with an HQ Bolero which we unfortunately destroyed on our first outing together. I have a Quantum and I am working on Stalls, Side Slides and Recoveries. Once we all got past the the repeated nose dives, I replaced my son's Bolero with an E3 trying to keep a good mix of kites.

        After my initial research I decided on the Prism line and have been quite satisfied with the durablity and convieience of replacement parts. I plan on purchasing a second kite for myself and in keeping with my earlier logic, figured I would get a Zephr when I felt I was ready.  Since that time I have discovered this forum and learned that there are other options I should consider.

        I am looking for an "all around" kite that is a happy balance of tracking and tricking. Some lower wind capability would be a plus, currently when the wind dies down my son and I take turns on the E3. Wind range isn't a deal breaker as I am pretty sure that the kite after this will be an UL. I appreciate quality of construction and would enjoy owning a "boutique" level kite. From my research so far I have narrowed it down to the Prism Zephyr, Blue Moon Exile and Focus Hydra.
       
       The Exile seems to be closest to what I am looking for but I like the graphics of the Hydra a little better, is that silly? I still think the Zephyr is a good deal considering the case and extra lineset, noticed that I just missed a good deal in the bargain section.  Oh well, timing is everything. Anyway I would appreciate any advice or comparison / contrast from those with experience with the Kites. I am planning on attending the kite festival in Wildwood NJ and hoping to get to see some of them.

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 10:35 AM »

Exile - one of the 2 best kites I've ever owned.

I've never had a Hydra, but the Exile pushed my Zephyr (and many others ) out of the bag. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 10:45 AM »

Oops, accidentally posted before I finished typing. Had to modify it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 11:07 AM »

The exile all the way.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 12:18 PM »

I'll have to remember to bring my Exile, you can fly it next weekend. I'll be there thurs/fri/sat, leaving sun.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 06:51 PM »

Exile, is a great kite don't expect to get to many roll ups, some others to consider would be a Talon std or a Widow Maker.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 07:26 PM »

My vote would be for the Exile. The standard fly's pretty low especially with the kites you are looking at. It makes the Quantum and E3 feel heavy (even though I still fly them).
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 08:41 PM »

Exile, is a great kite don't expect to get to many roll ups...

Interesting - I've not had this problem with my Exile.

@Quantum Leap.  Out of the three you're asking about, I've owned all three and still have the Exile.  The Hydra is very trick oriented and has it's own personality - it prefers you to fly it the Hydra way.  The Zephyr is a good all round kite, but the trailing edge tunnel wears out very quickly exposing the leech line.  I've repaired a few of them.  The Exile is top quality build, great at tricks, very good precision, and I'm keeping mine!

Hope this helps
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 09:02 PM »

I'll have to remember to bring my Exile, you can fly it next weekend. I'll be there thurs/fri/sat, leaving sun.
~Rob.



That would be great, looking forward to it!  How many kites do you have?
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 09:03 PM »

I am planning on attending the kite festival in Wildwood NJ and hoping to get to see some of them.

1.  If they allow beer on the beach get a 24 or larger case of the local favorite beer.

2.  Walk up to a person flying a kite that looks or sounds interesting and trade him one of said beers for the lines.

3.  Repeat as neccessary until beer and/or beer funds run out.   

This is the best way to find "your" kite.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 09:08 PM »


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 The Hydra is very trick oriented and has it's own personality - it prefers you to fly it the Hydra way.  The Zephyr is a good all round kite, but the trailing edge tunnel wears out very quickly exposing the leech line.  I've repaired a few of them.  The Exile is top quality build, great at tricks, very good precision, and I'm keeping mine!

Hope this helps
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That is what I wanted to know, Thanks.

Looks like Blue Moon will be taking orders again in about a month, suits my time frame perfectly.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 09:24 PM »

Exile, is a great kite don't expect to get to many roll ups, some others to consider would be a Talon std or a Widow Maker.

Not a problem as I can't get any of my kites to roll up yet.

I really like the Talon, great looking kite, but it seems like it might be more trick oriented than I am ready for.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 09:51 PM »


Exile, is a great kite don't expect to get to many roll ups...

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Interesting - I've not had this problem with my Exile.


Me either - The Standard Exile will rollup with 1 barrel of weight.  With 3 (my favorite) to 5 barrels, it will rollup as good as most anything out there that I've had the pleasure to fly (including the WM).

If you are talking the UL, then I agree - that one needs some weight (5 barrels) in order to one-pop rollup like the standard.

-Tom
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2010, 11:12 PM »

I have the zephyr and the exile (std and ul), and have not flown a hydra. The zephyr is a good kite but as described before it will break down, mine is starting to fray as well. I would go with the exile, as you are already talking about a ul, you may consider ordering two !! Wink a std and ul. Having the same kite for all wind ranges is a great benefit. The exile is a great trick kite with precision built in also. The ul will fly in very low winds and is my go to kite for those days. The hardest part is choosing your colors. Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 04:03 AM »

I am planning on attending the kite festival in Wildwood NJ and hoping to get to see some of them.

1.  If they allow beer on the beach get a 24 or larger case of the local favorite beer.

2.  Walk up to a person flying a kite that looks or sounds interesting and trade him one of said beers for the lines.

3.  Repeat as neccessary until beer and/or beer funds run out.   

This is the best way to find "your" kite.

Why don't I ever see this guy on my beach ? Cheesy
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