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Author Topic: Talon vs Fearless  (Read 4211 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2010, 09:21 PM »

... for me the journey ended with the Fearless...

You have my deepest sympathies.  I'd hate to think my sport kite journey was anywhere near ended...
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2010, 11:02 PM »

... for me the journey ended with the Fearless...

You have my deepest sympathies.  I'd hate to think my sport kite journey was anywhere near ended...

He's talking about the journey to find a kite that fits his flying style, the Fearless is what he was seeking, no need to look further. I doubt RX is anywhere near the end of his kite flying journey Wink
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2010, 03:05 AM »

Like all of us, you need to join in the journey and buy many kites... for me the journey ended with the Fearless.... I only need to buy 2 or 3 more and I will be set. He He....
By all means try them both... and offer up the one you don't like on the swap meet (and if you don't like the Fearless, I'll take it at 75%. I would prefer a standard, Black with Ruby wave).
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Uh... Oh..   I feel an auction coming on....I'll bid 77%, although I'd prefer black with Mango wave   Cool   Huh
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Kant Fly......might just as well buy!
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 03:17 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2010, 03:57 AM »

Both the Talon and the Fearless are easy to fly, they are light pulling, have good forward drive. Also they are easy to trick, which means predictable and with no obvious quirks. I'd also include the Exile and Widowmaker in this group.

The strength of the Talon is its pitch-ability The standard will roll up quickly and it seems from almost any angle. The strength of the Fearless is its ability to sit deep in the turtle.

While both kites gave something up in the precision department, they are both well rounded performers. The Talon is surprisingly good at spin tricks. Other kites that I've flown that are easy to pitch, have a lot of weight in the tail, which has led to over steer and/or ugly spin tricks.

The ability of Fearless to get into and stay in a turtle, especially on the Sul version, has put some people off. It's a little disturbing, the first time you pull on the lines, and the kite won't come out of the turtle.

When the wind is right, the Fearless Sul, will just hang at the end of the lines in a turtle waiting for an input. Get the multi-lazies going fast enough, and it will rise.

Another strength of the Fearless is its wind range. This is an area of controversy. While I don't think any of us, including myself are very good at estimating actual wind speed. So can a Fearless fly from 3mph to 30mph? Who knows?

The Fearless has the widest wind range, were it can still comfortably perform tricks.  Being an inland flier, where the winds can vary by the minute, it is a plus to have a kite with a wide wind range.

Construction on both the Talon and the Fearless are excellent. Mark has some nicely thought out features on the Talon, from the stuffed lower leading edges, to a multi-piece spine. Lam is a perfectionist. Every piece on his kites are the best that he can make it. No detail is too small. Plus Lam is always looking to improve his design. 

Jay

thanks Jay this is an help full comparison test !



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Those two kites seems to be very famous in US and Canada though it's not as much in Europe.

You are aware that the UK is in Europe ?

And apologizes for Britishes I forgot with there wonderfull home made kite  Wink

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2010, 05:45 PM »


And apologizes for Britishes I forgot with there wonderfull home made kite  Wink

Niki 
While "home made" is correct, I think a better description would be "handmade" as Mark puts a lot of time, effort and a bit of himself in each Talon and isn't ashamed to show it. You can watch your kite (or whose ever Mark is building at the time) being built if you like. I'm sure Lam is putting the same attention to detail into his kites, as well, just as anyone who is building high end airframes should. And all of them are handmade... Wink Grin

I think you'll need to fly them both to see what you think. Everything else is just someone else's opinion...
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Asfink tersez wot....

Exactly! Party on, Garth!
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 07:36 PM »

I think you'll need to fly them both to see what you think. Everything else is just someone else's opinion...

QFT, though in the end you'll probably buy both.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2010, 12:28 PM »



QFT, though in the end you'll probably buy both.
yeah...this is true! Roll Eyes
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Asfink tersez wot....

Exactly! Party on, Garth!
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2010, 12:37 PM »

G Cheesy Cheesy D for the economy.   Grin
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