which kite do i need please ??

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[lylenc]

wind direction changes from east thru to west while i was flying this afternoon

That's the variable wind world, especially if it does that repeatedly within a two or three hour outing - windshield wiper days. We've had 270 and 360 degree days, but thankfully they are rare.

Those conditions are when a floaty and non-twitchy UL/SUL is needed. The shorter the cycle time from one direction to the other the more frustrating it gets. You need a kite that will buy you time in the air until you can pump it around to the new wind direction. If you are way out of sync with the direction, leave the kite on the ground and walk in an arc, keeping the lines taught so they don't snag on debris, until the kite is more into the wind.

Keep an eye on trees, flags, smoke, dandelion fluff, or other wind indicators in the area. That will help you anticipate direction changes before they arrive at your location. Fudge towards the side of the window the wind is likely to shift towards.

Try to avoid whirl winds; it's best to set down. It's not a fun thrill to get a SUL caught up inside one. You'll have visions of splintered framing and shredded sail running through your head, while trying to work out of it without damage to the billfold. I've been snared twice and lucked out both times, but it's not a pretty sight to witness - especially with an out-of-production Zerostar.

[ozkite_pilot]

ok,thanks for your help and info mate
cheers
glen

[ezme6]

Try flying on 50#by50ft lines. IMHO using 90#by100ft lines the longer heavier lines cause alot of drag.

[ozkite_pilot]

hi mate
yep always fly with 50 feet lines x 50 LB
cheers
glen

[ezme6]

 

[Adams]

^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^^

I am rather surprised that nobody suggested a Jest of Eve Talon or Talon UL. It sounds like we have the same kind of dodgy conditions and the Talon does very well here.

Denny

  ya right.... nobody suggested a Jest of Eve Talon or Talon UL 

Glen... did you get your UL already??? check this out mike..

Talon UL

adams

[ozkite_pilot]

hi guys
iv been looking on blue moon site r.e the exile kite you recomended i get for my sh#it unrulely bumpy winds here in land.
thereis a mira and slice model,whats the difference beyween them ??
also do i get the std,skyshark nitro,ul skyshark 3 pt ??
and r.ecolors i can load pics of colors of them as it is java  which i dont have.
any pics of colors please ??
thanks very much
cheers
glen

[mikenchico]

Do you have a paint program? One you can do color picking and fill with, I'd be happy to get you a screenshot as a jpg or bmp so you can play with colors.

Dif between the Mira & Slice is just the graphics, I have the Mira only because the Slice hadn't been developed yet, I would've gone with the Slice I think, I've found some pleasing color schemes on it & I had a very hard time with the Mira.

Frame choice would be dependant on the winds you'll be flying in and your style. I like my Nitro's and find they will fly into UL winds when the winds are smooth. When the winds are low and swirling the reduced weight of the 3PT's isn't really a help when the kite is blowing towards you and due to my heavy handed flying style I felt the kite lost too much for little gain in wind range. If I had consistanly smooth light winds and a lighter hand the 3PT's might suit me. The P200 frame gives up some stiffness and response with no reduction in weight but some people prefer the reduced stiffness and find the kite a bit smoother with them.

[ko]

glen this may help roy reed is a very helpful guy and there is more stuff on his sitehttp://www.reeddesign.co.uk/colourizer/exile.html the mira is on top and the ul below it i believe is the slice

[ozkite_pilot]

hi guys
thanks for the helful info.
cheers
glen

[JimB]

Personally, for bumpy winds, I'd get the std frame.

[Sketch]

Go for the Exile.  I have similar conditions to yours a good part of the year and I can most always fly that one.  The Shadow will go lower, but it is not nearly as well mannered.
For a long time, it was the only kite I was flying - for both low and mid-level winds.  For sure, the Exile will fly much lower than the kites you have now (as well as the QPro and likely the E3).

There is a nice one on the swap right now.

Uhhh? Lets get real  ....The EXILE truly is an amazing kite....however don't you think possilbly theSHADOW IS LOTTA FUN AND A MUCH BETTA-BANG for the $$$BUCK?

I am usually wrong....but seems like I remember that the EXILE was at one time TWICE THE PRICE of my HQ Shadow?

[tpatter]

Uhhh? Lets get real  ....The EXILE truly is an amazing kite....however don't you think possilbly theSHADOW IS LOTTA FUN AND A MUCH BETTA-BANG for the $$$BUCK?

I am usually wrong....but seems like I remember that the EXILE was at one time TWICE THE PRICE of my HQ Shadow?

The Shadow is much cheaper, but -

No, the Shadow is a kite that has to grow on you for many flyers - EVERYONE loves the Exile right away, many hate the Shadow right away.

Part of that reason is that the Exile its MUCH better built, flys much smoother, and can easily be controlled and tricked.  To do tricks on the Shadow, you need a lighter touch and more experience.

[adx1592]

for zero winds, though not trickable, id get a prodancer SUL. VERY solid kite.
UL- exile UL or Mamba UL, Muse Lt.
Standard- Exile, Muse, Mamba.
Highwinds- MICRON! lol

seeing a trend here? 

[Sketch]

Uhhh? Lets get real  ....The EXILE truly is an amazing kite....however don't you think possilbly theSHADOW IS LOTTA FUN AND A MUCH BETTA-BANG for the $$$BUCK?

I am usually wrong....but seems like I remember that the EXILE was at one time TWICE THE PRICE of my HQ Shadow?

The Shadow is much cheaper, but -

No, the Shadow is a kite that has to grow on you for many flyers - EVERYONE loves the Exile right away, many hate the Shadow right away.

Part of that reason is that the Exile its MUCH better built, flys much smoother, and can easily be controlled and tricked.  To do tricks on the Shadow, you need a lighter touch and more experience.

Again...it appears that you are missing the point....
The EXILE (if you are fortunate enought to afford to spend that kind of money that a beautiful custom EXILE MOONIE' then by all means....anyone with common sense who has been flying sportkites for any length of time would natually choose the EXILE OVER THE SHADOW..
Reading between your lines.....it appears that it is YOU and not MANY others that seem to HATE THE SHADOW?
The truth must be somewhere in between or is it just that
One sportkite flyers trash...certainly appears to be another sportkite flyers trash?

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