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« on: August 31, 2016, 02:36 PM »

Hello

I need lines for a

Benson Deep Space STD
Talon UL
HQ Shadow

Can someone tell me best types and lengths for each?

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 03:33 PM »

I like 85ft.  90lb for the Deep Space, and 50lb for the others. Laser Pro Gold has never let me down.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 03:50 PM »

25-30 metre of 90-100lb ish for the DS , 20-25 metre of 50lb for the others, but also consider Climax Protec - excellent line almost zero stretch, will take a huge number of wraps and lasts for ages - I have one set that I bought used 4 years ago and it's still going strong! Also the line sold by Tim Benson!
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 05:21 PM »

85 to 100 ft on ds and talon for me but also down to 50 ft on both at times depending on wind.
I am really a fan of the yellow skybond on 100# even in light wind because it's so thin. Wind of change has it.  Was always a Shanti guy.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2016, 07:00 AM »

Line length IMO is pilot dependent. More experienced pilots can and some do prefer shorter lines. I fly 50-60' due to beach area conditions and people. There is a good argument beginners should never go less than 75' (I agree 100%) and shorter lines can restrict trick efficiency and overall some tricks in general. A simple example is the Flic-Flac which requires I believe three successive attempts which becomes more difficult on shorter lines and a higher wind speed - but unless you are in France with R-Sky at the Trick Stunt Kite Championships - does it matter (<VVBG>).

SUL = 50#, UL,Standard, Vent = 90#. I sometimes go to higher (#) lines to SLOW THE KITE DOWN in winds above 10 mph. I never fly above 15 mph as that is when loose sand becomes airborne at my beach. Actually I only fly above 10 mph when I am stuck with it in the non-Summer months simply due to my age.

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 12:32 PM »

after flying the shanti skybond 100# i didn't see the point in 50# line anymore. skybond is good stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2016, 10:43 AM »

An SUL in 2 mph winds with 100# lines ... however some pilots fly with 100 or 100-plus FOOT lines. There is no standard its simply what are your needs under certain flying conditions and your personal tastes ... 
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2016, 02:20 PM »

to each their own but i found the 100# skybond to not display more drag than 50# line and the weight difference completely negligible, but the upside is the 100# line is much less likely to snag on everything like 50# line, as well as it being nice to simplify what i bought, carried and maintained.

it might also help at 2mph i put down the dualies and grab a single line glider, which in the lightest of winds i found much more enjoyable.

but hey, that's just me.

(edit: it should be said 2mph thick, moist, beach air may be considerably different than the dry inland wisps of las vegas)
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2016, 03:06 PM »

25-30 metre of 90-100lb ish for the DS , 20-25 metre of 50lb for the others, but also consider Climax Protec - excellent line almost zero stretch, will take a huge number of wraps and lasts for ages - I have one set that I bought used 4 years ago and it's still going strong! Also the line sold by Tim Benson!

Climax Protech on all the kites?


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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 02:17 AM »

Yes I use Protec 95% of the time.

They do slightly odd line strengths, but the lines are quite thin.

25daN = 25kg = 55lb

50daN = 50kg = 110lb

75daN = 75kg = 154lb

I use 110lb 90% of the time and have only had one break on my oldest second hand set at the loop. I use the 55lb with my Shadow probably 5% of the time. The only exception is I don't have a 154lb Protec set - on the odd times I use that weight ( when it's really windy) I have a 150lb Shanti set I use simply because I have it and it doesn't need replacing yet.

You can get the 110lb through Tim Benson - another advantage is it is reasonably cheap - Lase pro Gold is around twice the price. The 55lb set can be found on the internet.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 11:53 AM »

I can second that ^^^^^^^ I have all three sets (I believe it's 70dan, not 75) and only use these. My most used one is the 50 and they are great.
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