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« on: June 08, 2010, 09:14 PM »

when i get the nose towards 2 o'clock direction and yank my left hand, my line always get caught on the kites left wing. it ends up spinning endlessly towards the left. what am i doing wrong? also, is the hypnotist more capable flying at lower winds or higher winds? thanks thanks
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 09:42 PM »

when i get the nose towards 2 o'clock direction and yank my left hand, my line always get caught on the kites left wing. it ends up spinning endlessly towards the left. what am i doing wrong? also, is the hypnotist more capable flying at lower winds or higher winds? thanks thanks

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Remember to throw both hands out after you pull the initiating hand, ie the left hand in this case.

The Hypno is a great kite that handles 6-10 the best.  Too low and you're not getting anywhere, and too high you will have to do a bit more walking before you initate a trick.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 10:00 PM »

omggggg, thanks!!!! i totally forgot to do that. today i completed the axel 3/20 times, and was wondering what i did wrong.....

yeah, im looking for a full size trickable kite, that is capable of taking lower winds, not necessary low winds. ie....like 3-6 mph.....

ottherwise for the fact that im looking for a full size, i would have just bought the 4d
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 12:31 AM »

Yep, the most common mistake I see people make when they are learning is "yanking", not popping.  In other words, they concentrate so much on getting a sharp movement they do the pull back without the release.

Think of how you knock on someone's door... it is a sharp "pop", but it is a two way movement.  You usually don't leave your knuckles against the door.

So when you are next trying the axel, position your hands low near your sides so that the pop can be done almost as if you are knocking on a door next to your leg

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 12:37 AM »

the door knocking next to your leg kevin is an excellent analogy, kudos sir.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 06:16 AM »

Good one Kaos, just give away all the secrets why don't you  Wink

Welcome to the journey tyt921  Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 07:08 AM »

Try it at the edge of wind window or when the wind is lighter. You want the kite to be somewhat stalled (kind of floppy) to start learning how to axel.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 12:39 PM »

another HUGE issue is, i find the kite always drifting up towards the sky. duh.....but i see people on youtube, they are able to comfortably keep their kite on low grounds. i can too, but not in my power window. i can very much keep the kite low but never near my power window, it always goes UPPPPPP. how come? something i need to do with the bridle?  Huh
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 01:24 PM »

i would be walking forward - or at least a step or two if i wanted to keep it there.......
plus you get the potential for a double if you keep moving forward and then pop that line at the right time.....
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 03:03 PM »

Walking forward is the best advice if the wind speed warrants that, keeping low in the boundary layer keeps some pressure off the sail. Try stepping forward and letting the kite land after your Axel.

When you're up to it Coin Tosses are fun on higher wind days, basically an Axel from the ground & back to a landing. Try to get the kite up on one wingtip then pop your Axel and let the kite land on the opposite tip. Here's Mark Reed who designed your Hypnotist giving a lesson.

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A bridle option is to set the kite heavier, that is tilt the nose back away from you. I don't recall if the Hypnotist has a knotted upper bridle line at the upper spreader connector. You set a kite heavier by lengthening the upper bridle line, easiest if it has adjustments there, or by moving the pigtail attachment point back toward the tail, mark the original location before messing with it, and make small 1/4 inch adjustments to see if it'll hold a stall better without adversely changing the flight. When you get too heavy the kite won't move forward easily and will spin in place.

The Hypnotist is not a low wind kite but I find tricks easiest to do in lower winds, for the Hypnotist that is probably in the 4-8 mph range although it's capable of doing them higher, you'll just have to move forward more when it's 10 or above.

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