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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 01:21 PM »

For a minute there it sounded as if everyone's opinion of REV pilots was that they were boring geriatrics, or slightly crippled individuals, that love to fly once a year and stand around and chat. Cheesy


Just on a whim I typed www.revolutionkites.com and got an advert for help the aged stairlifts  Cheesy




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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 02:20 PM »

A good rev flyer can do some very beautiful flying.

I'm a fan of both dual and quad.  Fly whats fun for you.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 04:33 AM »

I prefer duals to quads but will fly quads once in a while. To me, duals are for tricking and quads are for precision. I enjoy watching a quad team fly. It's much harder than it looks. Quads also seem to have a much more social aspect.

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 05:54 AM »

I like to fly standard dual kites.  Not very good at it but still enjoy flying them and collecting them.

I bought ULs to keep flying in low winds.  Not as much fun as the standards but at least I stay on the field.  No desire to collect ULs but need a few in the bag.

I bought a vented to keep flying in higher winds.  Also not as much fun as the standards but at least I keep flying.  Need one in the bag.

My 1.5 SLE is brought out during gusty winds covering the entire range from UL to vented.  They seem to handle a wider range of wind conditions than the dual kites.  The quad has a spot in my bag.

Someone mentioned WOW factor that dual kites can produce.  I think that depends on the audience.  Those that fly stunt kites appreciate the difficulty of all the tricks.  My son only likes single line kites in animal shapes.  He is WOWed by the rev's ability to walk, hover above your heads, mirror those walking in fields, being able to stop a few feet above the ground avoiding a crash etc.  His opinion of a difficult dual routine is that it looks like a wounded bird. 

I think the revs would get more attention by the non flying audience than the dual kites can.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 03:28 PM »

Having attended several kite festivals here down under I have to say I'm yet to see a Rev fly. (I've seen one on the ground if that counts, BUT thats it) It's not big at all down here. Really Rev's aren't even on the Radar. Even at the park I fly very regularly at I haven't seen one yet. Plenty of SLK's Dualies and kite boarders, but no REV's.
As for being social, the dual line Pilots I've met are very social, I've met a great bunch of guys in this sport and they have all been very helpful in me progressing. I'm sure it's the same with either style.
When it comes to the public, I think most people would be wowed by either of the two styles if the Pilot flying the kite was good at what he/she does. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2010, 11:35 AM »

I love both dual and quad equally, both for very different reasons, and I'd never give up either for any reason.

The duals are much more gratifying for constant challenge and training, for aggressive "BAM BAM" kind of flight (nothing does ACDC like a dualie), hard tip stabs and roll up tricks, etc.

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Revs are more like a saxophone, depth of control (kind of disco funk, hip hop rhythm), crowd interaction and group flying... Social, heck yes... Which is the main reason Revs outnumber dual line kites at events in North America nearly 20 to 1 these days.

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Neither is better... Comes down to taste, style and what you want out of it.

IMHO, the skills learned on each one are complimentary.

Half or whole, 1 or both, that's my sentiment.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2010, 01:29 PM »

Your Sea Devil vid has always been one of my favorites...
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2010, 03:21 PM »

Nice Rev vids JB.  The dock one was especially entertaining for me.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2010, 06:26 PM »

JB, it was you video on the Sea Devil that got me into this!

I though, jeez that looks cool, I might give it a go, shouldn't take too long to learn, it's only a kite after all...  Undecided Undecided Undecided

I rue that day sometimes Wink


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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2010, 06:33 PM »

Yeah, that Sea Devil video got me to buy my first Sea Devil... I figured if I had a kite like that, I could fly like that... yeah, right. Give me a few more years !  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2010, 09:33 PM »


Ohhhhh... So that's what I'm supposed to be doing with all those kites with only 2 lines that are packed away in my bag! ...Now I get it!

JB ~ First time I've seen that vid... Amazing, truly AMAZING!
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2010, 10:05 AM »

... Social, heck yes... Which is the main reason Revs outnumber dual line kites at events in North America nearly 20 to 1 these days.


No disrespect John, but Really? 20 to 1? Now I only attend 2-4 events a year so you do have a much wider view then me but with only a little exaggeration I would reverse those figures for the events I've attended. Or are you talking competitors entered? Even then I haven't seen that differential, but then I haven't witnessed an event with 21 competitors since 1989  Sad

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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2010, 11:52 AM »

Slightly exaggerated, yes, probably so... Some of the effect is simply that there are 10-25 Rev fliers all paying together in one area, whereas at the same time, there might be 5-6 dual line pilots scattered about separately... In all honesty, it might be 3 to 1 or 5 to 1 at most of the festivals I've been at, just feels like 20 to 1 cause we're all playing together on the Revs.

Bear in mind, I'm referring to active fliers... Not the folks with $50 stunt kites and such.

Kite Party is probably one of the best represented balances between dual and quad, as is Berkeley and San Ramon... I would imagine Wildwood is still a really strong mix, although I've not been there in a couple years... And I'm definitely not talking about the competitions, as most North American quad fliers don't compete.

Might be a good discussion, report in here, tell us what's happening in your areas? Duals and Revs, competing or not, etc?

Mike, what 2-4 events do you generally attend?
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2010, 01:03 PM »

Just for fun, I went to the KP8 photos (350) and did a very rough quick count based on subject matter. Some were hard to figure out (do Rev fliers go under people or quad line?). The count is probably off a little as this was done in a few minutes, and it doesn't take into account that there are multiple pictures of the same kites in many instances. It may just show my bias toward dualies.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2010, 11:18 PM »



Mike, what 2-4 events do you generally attend?

WSIKF since 1989, Berkeley most years, San Francisco Family Day Kite Festival every year. Some of the day trip small festivals or kite days. Kite Party as treat a couple years ago.

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