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Author Topic: Lets keep it simple- Best Ul- Best Std- Best Vented as a set  (Read 4607 times)
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2010, 08:59 AM »

Not Ken, Charly Belassis has and ad up for a set of 5 with accessories
that is a whole other kettle of fish then....
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2010, 09:19 AM »

Fearless.


(hows that for a simple answer)

Yeah right, and you don't need a set - just the "Light Vented" - good for 3-28mph  Cool 
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2010, 09:57 AM »

sets? hrmn.

Mamba

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Althrough no vent, the Focus Jinx would be great for comp
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2010, 10:01 AM »

Althrough no vent, the Focus Jinx would be great for comp

Paul Debakker has a prototype vent  Wink

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2010, 10:11 AM »

Fearless.


(hows that for a simple answer)

Yeah right, and you don't need a set - just the "Light Vented" - good for 3-28mph  Cool 

You got it - ONE kite keeps it pretty simple!  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2010, 11:52 AM »

ONE kite keeps it pretty simple!  Smiley
But that wasn't the question, now was it ?  Wink

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2010, 01:11 PM »

Best set? Soyokaze Akuji.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2010, 02:09 PM »

Longer answer......

My biggest issue with getting a set is that each kite in the set should fly reasonably similar to the others.  By that I mean that they should share the same tricking abilities, feel, strengths, input style - essentially, it should be the SAME kite just flying in DIFFERENT winds.  You learn the ins and outs of that kite and can use those skills regardless of SUL, UL, STD, or vent.  Each may have a minor accent, but they all should speak the same dialect.

Many kites, even ULs versus STDs don't pass this test - they sometimes share the name of the kite only it seems.  Oftentimes, the UL and vent may seem like they are from different planets.  No sense getting a set of a kite like this in my opinion - you may as well just pick different kites that you like in the UL, STD, Vent range. 

Aside from this, most vents are garbage - they feel like their feet are stuck in cement.

So, if this is a concern to you as well, be sure to try the full set of kites or at least ask folks that have them already as to how each version flys or you may be unhappily surprised.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2010, 04:07 PM »

Thank you every one so far I can look at

1. Fearless
2. Mamba
3. Mantis
4. Soyokaze Akuji
5. Nivarna- I have notice the high volume of people are selling second hand kites
6. Talon
7. Quantum Pro - I already have two
8. Cosmic TC- exchange rates make it hard to buy kites from europe

I fly purely for pleasure but I spend most of my time trying the hardest tricks, I would to think I fly towards the competition level. I like the concept that with the set you get the same feel for each kite and then adjust accordingly for inputs depending upon the wind range.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2010, 04:42 PM »

Thank you every one so far I can look at

1. Fearless
2. Mamba
3. Mantis
4. Soyokaze Akuji
5. Nivarna- I have notice the high volume of people are selling second hand kites
6. Talon
7. Quantum Pro - I already have two
8. Cosmic TC- exchange rates make it hard to buy kites from europe

9. Rev 1.5 Pro series - standard, mid vent, full vent with race rods  Grin

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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2010, 04:50 PM »

For my money it would be the Qpro...........All four fly the same throughout their respective wind range and the VVent can be tuned so to keep it flying up to thirty MPH with good speed control.  A must for comps.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2010, 05:20 PM »

. . . I have 6 level one kites - a pleasure to fly but at the high end extremely expensive but that what you get for custom made and one off's[ Aust dollar Vs Euro not real good ]
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Which Level Ones do you have?
I have a Genesis SUL, UL and STD set.  Like them all but especially the UL.  Probably cause I prefer flying in its wind range most.  There is a vent in the Swap meet i'd like but need to sell some more kites first.

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2010, 07:38 PM »

The only "full" set of kites I've owned were Transfer XTRs, and as long as you didn't have to go out and buy them all at once you can probably still cobble together a set for not too high a price. I didn't really care for the variable vent on the XTR, I prefer the V.V. XTS. so if I had to do it again I'd probably try for a set of those.

If I had to buy a matching production set of kites I'd probably go right over to the right column and order up a set of JoE Talons.
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2010, 07:59 PM »

Vendetta's tho' there's no SUL as yet.

Cheaper than most of the above too.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2010, 08:29 PM »

Longer answer......

My biggest issue with getting a set is that each kite in the set should fly reasonably similar to the others.  By that I mean that they should share the same tricking abilities, feel, strengths, input style - essentially, it should be the SAME kite just flying in DIFFERENT winds.  You learn the ins and outs of that kite and can use those skills regardless of SUL, UL, STD, or vent.  Each may have a minor accent, but they all should speak the same dialect.

Many kites, even ULs versus STDs don't pass this test - they sometimes share the name of the kite only it seems.  Oftentimes, the UL and vent may seem like they are from different planets.  No sense getting a set of a kite like this in my opinion - you may as well just pick different kites that you like in the UL, STD, Vent range. 

Aside from this, most vents are garbage - they feel like their feet are stuck in cement.


  I can tell you this much. I have almost fully exact matched set of Q Pros  by Prism. Now Granted the Kite is well Dated and needs to be Updated and modernized a bit.  However. All 4 kites fly really alike. I will admit that you do need to bit a bit more timid with the SUL  than the V V. All of them have different nose angels and vary in the sails etc. So the Handling is almost the same.
  After having 2 Baby strokes the last two years etc. I pulled them out for the first time and started flying them in NOV '09. That set of kites has placed me in the Nationals this year and I am still learning to fly the kites each day. They are different in their flight characteristics. However the handling is very close to being alike. The wind range is 2-6 SUL 5-10 UL 8-15 REGULAR and Vented after that with Brakes etc up to 35 MPH on 500lb lines to slow it down. 
   YES I DID do that this year in Competition for the drag! 

  Mr ED
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