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Author Topic: Laser Pro Gold or Shanti Speed Lines ?  (Read 6383 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 09:17 AM »

Is there a place that I can get Shanti Skybond in bulk ?
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 01:04 PM »

Is there a place I can get Climax Protec in bulk?

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 01:35 PM »

Is there a place I can get Climax Protec in bulk?

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PM me...I can send you a link.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 03:46 PM »

Is there a place I can get Climax Protec in bulk?

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Yes, easy to find with your search engine.  It's in the UK and customer service is excellent
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 07:25 PM »

Is there a place I can get Climax Protec in bulk?

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I was thinking the same thing...

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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 11:15 AM »

Skybond line is brand new from Shanti.  Years ago Shanti did make another type of line and it was also called Skybond - which did use Kevlar.  The new Skybond is not the same line as the older Skybond from years ago.

I have been using the Skybond line for almost a year now and was able to test some of the first prototypes of this line.  It is absolutely awesome and with almost a years worth of use the line is still as slick as it was the first day.

The line comes in some different weights, starting at 100#.  There is not a 90# but the 100# is not only stronger than the standard 90# line, but is also thinner in diameter.  The 175# is the same when compared to normal 150# spectra, thinner in diameter while obviously being stronger.

When talking with Daniel from Shanti, he was excited saying "This new line is some of the most advanced stuff to ever be created for the kite flying market" and "I don't remember the last time I was this excited".  If you haven't had the chance to fly the new Skybond, do yourself a favor and give it a try.  I have seen several die-hard LPG users discard their LPG line in favor of the Skybond.  I is a huge noticeable difference when flying.

I am sure that Steve here at GWTW either has some available or will be able to get you some very easily.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 12:14 PM »

LPG man, but I am very intrigued by Skybond - I will have to track some down.

I've tried other lines, but LPG has the least amount of "stretch feel" to me.  In smooth wind, the kite should have a rather constant and consistent pull on the lines.  If it feels like it is bouncing around or does not feel consistent, then the line is stretching too much.   

I do wish it were more slippery, however - sometimes the binding sounds like an old iron gate!  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 06:58 PM »

my "pusher" got me hooked on shanti, i would be intrigued to try some skybond. I'm not a fan of the lpg i have tried
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 07:08 PM »

Do LPG lines 'free' up with use or should I look at moving back to Shanti, what are your thoughts?

They do free up. After a bit, I don't notice them being much less slippery than other lines, but initially they are extra stiff and do bind.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2010, 08:25 PM »

From the Shanti site:

"Is Skybond better than Speed line? No.  This is the classic oranges vs. apples question.  Speed line has a “soft-finish.” It is more slippery, has less stretch and wears 3 to 5 times longer than other high-performance lines.  It’s still our favorite.  But for flyers who like coated lines, our new Skybond is as revolutionary as the original was, 31 years ago.  Skybond is made in USA and is available in all the same options as Speed line."

I like 90# Speed line a lot.

The description of Skybond doesn't really give me an idea of how it might be better than Speed. Just different I guess.


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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2010, 08:47 PM »

If I had to take a "stab in the dark" at it; my 'guess' would be that the coating would allow the line to last a bit longer on certain conditions. My shanti lines slipperiness went down drastically as dirt minerals started building up in between the braiding from beach sand and loose dirt from the lawn. Cleaning them on soapy water definitely helps however, but there's still a bit in there.

I'd definitely would like to try it out.
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2010, 09:46 PM »

The Shanti pitch;
"Shanti Skybond line is the latest in innovation for the kite line market.   Developed exclusively for kite flying, this 100% Spectra modulus line sets a new standard that all other lines will be measured up to.   Skybond line is a High-Modulus Polyethylene line that has been Polymer-Bonded and pre stretched for zero stretch or creep while delivering the ultimate in slickness.

Skybond line comes in a high visibility yellow color, making it easier to see in the air and when laying out on the ground.   Skybond's unique weave provides the pilot with a direct connection with your kite, allowing you faster responses, sharper corners and a better overall feel of what your kite is doing while performing the latest in elaborate slack line tricks.

Shanti is the original inventor of Spectra kite line and has been producing the highest quality kite line for over 20 years!   Shanti's unique braiding process allows for a line that has minimal creep or stretch while providing maximum strength.

Shanti Skybond line is proudly made 100% in the U.S.A.

Skybond line comes in several strenghts and is available in pre-made linesets or in bulk spools."
And it costs less than Speed line.

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2010, 01:10 AM »

And out of the left field,

I prefere PowerPro Hollow Ace for standard lines, 40-160lbs, bonus, it can be spliced
Berkely Whiplash for the times the line has to be as light and thin as possible, 20-40lbs, that stuff is thinner then my sewing thread.
And Liros DC when i need a line that keeps on holding under high load and is thin, 120+ lbs, it also can be spliced, also good for bridles.

I tried the climax profiline and don't like it much, for me it has to much stretch. It actually feels a bit rubbery
Cylone pro, to thick for the load.
LGP, to thick and not smooth enough,
Shanti Speed, nice line, but can't be spliced, which for me is a negativ.
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2010, 07:28 AM »

And it costs less than Speed line.
Upon further investigation, Warp Speed line sets are about 10% more than Sky Bond line sets. In 1000' spools Warp Speed is about 20% less than Sky Bond. I'm sure this makes sense to someone though the logic escapes me.

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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2010, 08:07 AM »



And it costs less than Speed line.
Upon further investigation, Warp Speed line sets are about 10% more than Sky Bond line sets. In 1000' spools Warp Speed is about 20% less than Sky Bond. I'm sure this makes sense to someone though the logic escapes me.

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If you don't have a very big Team and don't need 1000 feet spools Shanti lines  Cheesy, you can buy 300 inches spools in Europe and Shanti lines/meter.  Smiley 
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