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« on: November 15, 2010, 05:19 PM »

So, I went out and flew my new kite in the fog yesterday... just practicing low wing flying and coin tosses and such... but my kite got soaked to the bone.. is that okay? I didn't know if the kite getting super wet was good for it or if I should stop flying in the rain and fog...? I'm just trying to get as much air time as possible... :-( also... if wet... should I then take it out and dry it off when I get home so as not to store it all wet and rolled up? ... sorry if this should be common sense.. just don't wanna chance messing up mu new Talon so figured I better ask the pro's :-)

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 05:35 PM »

It's absolutely alright! Almost all the sail materials we use were developed for sails for boats and windsurfer rigs, so they're perfectly happy getting wet.
Definitely take it out of the bag to dry though - mold is a pain to get off kites. You should dry it fully assembled to ensure that the dacron or other nylon pieces maintain the proper shape.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 06:20 PM »

Some have also been known to take their dirty kites into the shower for a cleaning - it works great, the kite looks all new again.

I've even heard of folks that apply conditioner to the sail (I have not tried that one).

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 09:03 PM »

If your kites are nylon they should be assembled to dry.

Also, some Icarex colors do bleed if put up wet. Yellow and Plum for two. It is no problem to get kites wet (good think since my Debray took a dip in the Gulf a couple of days ago) but just be sure to pull out to dry when you get home. If salt water I like to rinse thoroughly.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 11:03 PM »

OK two statements saying to leave Nylon kites assembled, what about Polyester kites?

It seems counter intuitive to me since Nylon expands when wet, the sail may end up quite baggy, is there no chance that by leaving it under tension while drying the fabric may remain in its stretched state? What if the pilot re-tensioned a Nylon sail when wet or damp, as the nylon drys and shrinks back to its original state won't it become overly stressed?

Since Polyester doesn't change when wet it seems that you would be safe leaving a Polyester kite assembled though.

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 04:22 AM »

For washing I normally have the kite assembled but detension the LEs and standoffs. Rinse thoroughly with a hose and spot clean with mild soap or mineral spirits.  Don't forget to spray water through the LE tunnels.  Sand and salt water gets everywhere.

Lean it up against a wall to dry a few hours. YMMV.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 04:38 AM »

For washing I normally have the kite assembled but detension the LEs and standoffs. Rinse thoroughly with a hose and spot clean with mild soap or mineral spirits.  Don't forget to spray water through the LE tunnels.  Sand and salt water gets everywhere.

I agree with that de-tension is a must, I usually dip my dirty kite in the pool, spot clean with mild detergent, then rinse in the pool again, air dry

Not sure I would use something as strong as mineral spirits especially on colors


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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 05:15 AM »

I have both nylon and polyester sails. Occasionally when they are dirty, and get washed ,i leave them assembled but detensioned , by leaving out the upper spreader, loosen the leading edges, and if the kite has two stand offs, disconnect the one next to the spine, if only one, leave off, then stand up to dry.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 08:10 AM »

Mineral spirits are good for removing oil based items such as tar, some adhesives, and some inks. I've had Icarex poly quite wet and scrubbed using a soft cloth with no noticeable adverse effects to the coating or cloth.

I would NOT try lacquer thinner and would expect bad results.  Now I'm curious and will try this on some scraps this evening....
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 11:19 AM »

Mineral spirits only on spots like tar, otherwise just mild soap, period. I would not ,or ever use , lacquer thinners on my sails as it will have an adverse effect on it.   Cry  Cry
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 11:41 AM »

So what's the verdict on stripping the sail off the spars, and chucking it in the washing machine along with my underwear?

...   and ironing it nice and flat afterwards?

(yes, I'm a newbie.  (OK, you've guessed!)   And despite the jocular approach, I'm really wondering what the answer is to both questions.)
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 01:21 PM »

For washing I normally have the kite assembled but detension the LEs and standoffs. Rinse thoroughly with a hose and spot clean with mild soap or mineral spirits.  Don't forget to spray water through the LE tunnels.  Sand and salt water gets everywhere.

I agree with that de-tension is a must, I usually dip my dirty kite in the pool, spot clean with mild detergent, then rinse in the pool again, air dry

Not sure I would use something as strong as mineral spirits especially on colors


in the pool with chlorine and other chemicals?

I rinse my sails off, detension the standoffs and then let air dry. I don't know if i would go so far as putting them in the washing machine. The washer we have now has no agitator in it but is supposedly super whiz bang and can handle a king size blanket but it has tied some of jeans in knots! I wouldnt trust my kites to it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 01:58 PM »

So what's the verdict on stripping the sail off the spars, and chucking it in the washing machine along with my underwear?

...   and ironing it nice and flat afterwards?

(yes, I'm a newbie.  (OK, you've guessed!)   And despite the jocular approach, I'm really wondering what the answer is to both questions.)

NO and NO!!!!!! Really don't even think about it!  Huh

(All you need to do is a quick wash down with warm water and a sponge  Wink)
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 02:20 PM »

Yep, NO to the washing machine, too harsh, wadding the fabric up like that may damage the coatings on some fabrics and they tend to wrinkle badly and ironing will not remove those wrinkles from Nylon or Polyester.

As everybody has mentioned, just leave it mostly together and hose it, dip it or shower with it if you don't worry about what the neighbors will say. And as most people have preferred, leave the kite together but untensioned by removing the stand-offs and possibly loosening the leading edge tensioners, but that isn't really a big worry unless it's a lite or ultra lite kite, then I would relieve the leading edges since they are possibly made of 1.5 oz Nylon.

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 02:27 PM »

<<NO and NO!!!!!! Really don't even think about it!  Huh>

Yes, I really AM a newbie!  Thanks for the no-no!
Mind you, it would never even have occured to me to iron the sails of my dad's sailing dinghy when I was a teenager!  Perhaps Alzheimers is rearing its ugly head ...
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