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« on: January 06, 2011, 08:52 AM »

I just finished the bridle today, comments welcome!
All Poly, with no Mylar.
Framed with Skyshark 5PT and P2X

I just need some wind to see how it fly's!

I now see that there is a 2011 coming.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 09:03 AM »

Looks nice!  Is that slate?
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 09:17 AM »

Sweet looking b'zar you got there. good worksmanship. hope to see a vid you flyin it.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 09:29 AM »

slate?
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 09:30 AM »

slate?

Slate is an Icarex blue/grey color.  Hard to tell colors from pics sometimes,
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 09:39 AM »

Polymax 42-Z: Dark Blue .75 oz
Polymax 42 White .75 oz
Polyester Red .6 oz

I got the Polymax from Kitebuilder.com for $3.00/yd
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 09:48 AM »

Will the b'zar fly differently compared to an icarex sail b'zar???
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 07:43 PM »

Polyester is icarex, so I don't understand the question.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 04:05 AM »

as in icarex PC31... some ripstop polyester have different grids on it compared to icarex.. and some felt alittle thicker. Alot of things might be different. for example weight too.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 07:46 AM »

The PolyMax is significantly heavier then Icarex (not saying that's a bad thing), Kitebuilder had a thread on the weight but I don't recall if anybody ever came up with a true measurement. It was looking like the PolyMax 42 was going to come out close to 42 grams a yard where Icarex is 31 grams hence those numbers in the names.

Short comment on fabric weights for those thoroughly confused, when it says .75 oz (approx 21 grams) that is the weight of the woven fabric per "Sail Makers Yard" (Sail maker's yard is 36"x28.5" = 0.79 square yard = 0.66 m^2
) before any coatings are applied, the finished fabric is much heavier and depending on the manufacturer the actual finished weights may vary widely. Icarex is rated as .6 oz fabric (17 grams) but after coating weighs 31 grams (1.1 oz), the PolyMax 42 was rated as .75 oz (21 grams) and weighs 42 grams after coating or 1.5 oz
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 07:54 AM »

That is the info that I read about fabric weights. Although Polymax is heaver(about the same as nylon), I think it works well on a STD kite. I would not use it on an UL. I have mixed the two before and they seem too work well together. I would not mix Poly and Nylon!
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 06:56 PM »

I had a chance to fly the B'zar today, I really like this kite! It took some time to dial in the bridle. The wind was going from about 15mph to 1 mph so it was hit and miss.  Great Flat Multilazys, axels, half axels. I have 15 grams of weight in the tail, and it will not roll up into a fade for me. I'm sure it is in the bridle, the turbo is 5cm and the rest is adjustable. Also I have not installed the activators yet.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 12:44 PM »

I'm very pleased to hear that you like the B'zar a lot!! Keep on playing with the bridle and try to tune your kite.
I can really recommend you to install the activator!! Another thing about the weight. It will do all pitchcontrolled tricks a lot easier with 25 grams at the end of the spine in stead of 15 gr Just try this and see.
In the lower windrange you can stick with 15 gr as a minimum. It also does a two-pop yoyo very nicely in little wind.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 10:37 AM »

Did you have the opportunity to fly your B'zar a little longer? I'm intrested in your opinion on the pro's and con's of this kite!
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 06:18 AM »

No chance yet the weather has been bad, lots of ice and snow.
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