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« on: January 06, 2011, 12:03 PM »

In the past I have noticed that many of the posts on the ‘Kite building and repair’ section are requests for details of standard bridle measurements and frame specifications. 

This thread has been started so that forum members can post the standard bridle and frame details for kites they own for the benefit of other forum users. Hopefully in time it will build up into a useful reference source for many of the kites we fly.

For ease of use I would suggest that you cover one kite or set of kites (i.e. UL/Std/Vent) per post rather than a huge list.  I would also suggest that measurements be taken with the bridle on the kite from frame to approximate centre of the knot. Upper outhaul measurements should be taken with adjustment on the middle knot where this applies. If you have the lengths and spec of the frame tubes these too can be posted.

I am aiming at the standard set up for each kite, however if you want to post alternative bridle set up’s or modifications please feel free to do so but I would ask that you make it clear they are alternative measurements.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 12:04 PM »

Flying Wings Soul Standard

Upper Outhaul – 54cm  Lower outhaul – 57cm  Inhaul- 63cm Turbo 9.5cm

Frame – ULE/LLE Dynamic DT15 x 74cm  Spine – D15 x 89.5cm Lower spreader Dynamic DT18 x 78.5cm Upper spreader – 6mm carbon x 51.5cm Standoff 3mm carbon x 25.5cm with optional outer 3mm x 22cm.

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 12:05 PM »

HQ Shadow (2009 version)
Upper Outhaul – 42.5cm Lower Outhaul – 52cm Inhaul – 56cm Turbo – 6cm Keeper line 44.5cm

Frame – ULE 4mm carbon tube x 70cm LLE – 4mm carbon tube x 70cm Spine 5mm carbon tube x 82.5cm Lower spreader Dynamic DT12 x 70cm Upper Spreader 4mm carbon tube x 54cm  Outer standoff – 2mm carbon x 21.5cm Inner standoff – 3mm carbon x 21.5cm.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 12:06 PM »

HQ Infinity Standard

Upper outhaul – 54cm Lower outhaul – 53cm  Inhaul 62cm Turbo 5cm Keeper line 32cm

Frame – ULE – Dynamic DT15 x 82cm LLE – DT15 x 69cm  Spine – Dynamic D15 x 90cm Upper spreader D15 x 52cm Lower Spreader -  DT15 x 75.5cm.  Outer standoff 3mm carbon x 25cm Inner standoff 3mm carbon x 26cm Yoyo stoppers 53cm from nose.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 01:33 AM »

How about links to manufacturers websites who publish this info?

e.g.:

Benson Bridles: http://bensonkites.com/tech/bridles.html

Benson Frames: http://bensonkites.com/tech/frames.html
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 06:47 AM »

Specs for many new and old HQ kites can be found at - http://www.invento-hq.com/supportsuche_e.php

Also PDF copies of many original manuals can be found at - http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=214
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 04:37 PM »

so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

http://kitecards.heroku.com

<< this is not production ready and not guaranteed.... however my plan is to continue to update it while I get used to Rails3 and Ruby for that matter.

I haven't figured out how I want to handle the bridle info at this point ..... its needs a little design work... but is a start.

give it a shot and let me know what you think... I am sure people have a lot of ideas...
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 06:44 PM »

I have notes on standard and tweaked bridles.  You guys want them?

And so I understand.  One post per kite?
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 07:35 AM »

so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

http://kitecards.heroku.com



Cool, I'm guessing it's editable by anyone like a WIKI? I didn't want to make a change with improper info just to test it. I hope it saves a copy in case somebody goes in maliciously.

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 07:38 AM »

so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

http://kitecards.heroku.com



Cool, I'm guessing it's editable by anyone like a WIKI? I didn't want to make a change with improper info just to test it. I hope it saves a copy in case somebody goes in maliciously.

at the moment it is very much like a wiki... however I plan on adding user authentication and then of course only allowing authenticated users to make changes.... at the moment it is only back by a sqlite db so the data is easily replaced...

feel free to add data but its just a basic form.... wanting to make sure I have all the right info ... just something I decided to do in some of my free time... when not flying of course Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 08:22 PM »

Hello everyone, i just joined this forum as i am awaiting my Prism Hypno to arrive. Ordered yesterday.
I have also a Paimpol Super Sonic kite i bought from France.
Wing span - 1m85
Height - 80cm
I am looking in constructing a new bridle line for it as the old one got cut while it was packed for some years. Is there any calculator for this or any kite with apprx same specs i can copy all bridle length to fit on it?
Thanks everybody for helping.

Btreize
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 11:13 PM »

Did both sides get cut? Your best bet is to duplicate the original, if one side is good then you just mirror it. If the cut is clean enough and hasn't frayed too bad you should be able to approximate it close enough, for sure closer then substituting measurements from another kite.

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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 01:26 AM »

Hello everyone, i just joined this forum as i am awaiting my Prism Hypno to arrive. Ordered yesterday.
I have also a Paimpol Super Sonic kite i bought from France.
Wing span - 1m85
Height - 80cm
I am looking in constructing a new bridle line for it as the old one got cut while it was packed for some years. Is there any calculator for this or any kite with apprx same specs i can copy all bridle length to fit on it?
Thanks everybody for helping.

Btreize
IF you can post some pictures of the assembled kite in a new thread and someone her might rcognize it and be able to help.  IF not try mikes suggestion or there are a few sources on making a bridle from scratch.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 08:31 AM »

Did both sides get cut? Your best bet is to duplicate the original, if one side is good then you just mirror it. If the cut is clean enough and hasn't frayed too bad you should be able to approximate it close enough, for sure closer then substituting measurements from another kite.




Yes i removed both sides and cannot find it back now. I don't have a picture right now but you can see it on the link below. Exactly the same thing

http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 08:32 AM »

Ca Ike, I dont have a picture now. I can upload later but here is the kite itself from this link

http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250

Thanks for you help.

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