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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 07:28 AM »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I talked to Jon yesterday...We build my Ocius sul on Wednesday at noon.  I will be makng a nice video... I thought at first to make it small.  But I can run a fifteen minutes on youtube if I had to.  I am going to run some experiments with time.  I am not really sure how much I have and if it will transfer to this site... Rather than clip it and use photos Jon said it would take about an hour of time.  So I'll probably video a m inute to every five minutes... should work out.  I don't want to bore anyone.  This should be a very educational vidoe on kite building and design...  Probably with some soft Zen type music in the  background...

I will probably be posting a couple test videos this next couple days.. I'll post then and then take them down...  The sail is "Red".
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2011, 05:17 AM »

I got a quote from Sky Burner that the SUL version is $270.  This is quite a lot more expensive than the Std ($215) and UL ($225).

I asked if the Zero spars were available separately but did not get an answer from them.

Are the Zero sticks THAT much more expensive that they add and are worth that much $ over the other versions?



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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2011, 07:27 AM »

 Wink  The Zero tubes are like nothing before.  I watched Devin fly that kite as hard as he could.  Be bounced the wing tips off frozen ground.  Went up high came down and slammed them.  Everything he could do to break the tubes.   When that was not enough they brought me along to fly it also.  Since I am no were near any kind of skilled pilot.  I crash and slammed into the frozen ground.  Nothing.   Huh Huh

What ever the extra cost I didn't care I ordered mine that day...I am sure the work into the tubes and the availability are part of cost.  Research cost money. 
Do I like paying more for things of course not... I want things as cheap as I can get it...  But when it comes to my favorite sport... I through reason out the door.
We hold kiting as a passion.  Theses Kite Designer's are far and few.  We need to enjoy the ride while it's here. 

Do the Carbon tubes make that much of a difference for price increase...

It's summer time July... hot as hell... no breeze to speak about.  You want to fly it's been a week and you have the shakes from withdrawl.  Your mouth is dry and eye's are starting to get blurry.............. Sad

You wait day after day.  Hour after hour.  Minute after minute you check the weather channel on the computer.  Wind meter shows 0.5mph.

Then suddenly you remember  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Huh Huh Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
You spent an extra $40 bucks on a Ocius Sul...
You run to your kite bag.. Grab the Ocius sul and race down to your local field to fly.  As you assemble your kite a number of people laugh mentioning to each other that it will never fly No Wind...

You back up and pull the lines... Up it goes and you swope into a axel and touch down on a wing tip and do a coin toss......

Right then and there you realize why you paid more money... but you don't care because you don't feel cheated.... It wasn't that much more and your day was worth every cent.  Wind is Free, but some times No Wind cost... Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2011, 10:25 AM »

That seems like a pretty reasonable difference in cost for an SUL version.   I am not sure why exactly, but the SULs generally seem to be significantly more.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2011, 04:33 PM »

On a regular weight kite just the change from straight to tapered LE rods costs $20+

I gotta assume those new sticks are pricey. With such a thin wall the margin for error in manufacturing has to be much smaller. All these tapered sticks are hand wound from long, sticky sheets of stuff. It's gotta be tough to make really wimpy ones.

Then there's just the fact that no one has made sticks this light since the mid '90s. These are pretty special.

Beyond sticks, SULs tend to require more build time, different materials is crucial areas slows things down.

I'm very much looking forward to trying an Ocius SUL at Kite Party!
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2011, 09:46 AM »

And it wasn't a Ocius... #4 of 25 showed up bright and early... Thanks Bobby... I love the kite... Thanks Devin for selling it to Bobby .......... and who ever sold it to Devin... It has a home.  Cheesy.  I bought the kite from Bob on Tuesday night... It arrived Friday morning...juts like downtown. Cool
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2011, 02:11 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 05:39 PM »

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Beyond sticks, SULs tend to require more build time, different materials is crucial areas slows things down.
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There are the video's posted by vertigo2u here of Jon building the SUL, there are some special build features, stand-off's, bridle, sail reinforcements, etc. and probably more cost on the Zero's. Like the Pro Dancer SUL Jon has taken every measure to reduce the weight possible, hand making some parts just to save a gram. You cyclist's can relate I'm sure, we used to say "If you mind the grams the pounds will mind themselves", that attention to detail doesn't come cheap, I wouldn't think $40 is not out of line.

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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2011, 07:53 PM »

Ordered mine today...well ok...Monday but I can hope the order was processed today, right?   Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2011, 02:15 AM »

what a beautiful kite..
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