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« on: February 23, 2011, 04:18 PM »

   Well this all started a few days ago when we had 30 MPH winds with gusts over 50. Yes I know thats way too too much for any kite to handle but I just couldnt help myself. I took the huge (cheap) K44 out and did some high speed stunt flying . All was well much to my amazement for about an hour and as I was thinking of calling it a day all at once the kite did a sharp turn and crashed into the turf. When I looked at it it was the bridle had snapped on the far left side. So later I measured the good side and made a drawing and tried to make a new one...Wrong the thing just dosen't look right .And flys but not the same. Where can I get bridle design for idiots. Cause I seem to be one.....Tom
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:45 PM »

Andy Wardley's Bridle Pages:
http://wardley.org/kites/bridle/index.html

Ian Newham's Bridle Page
http://www.ian.ourshack.org/kitedesign/bridling.html

If the bridle was something besides spectra-cored dacron, the side of the bridle that survived might have been stretched, which might be why it no longer flies the same.

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 04:47 PM »

Since you still have the original bridle:

Method 1: take the bridle completely off the kite and tie a new one to exactly match. Make both sides the same.

Method 2. Take the bridle off one side and tie a new bridle directly on the kite to match the other side.  Work leg by leg adjusting the knots until the lengths are correct. Measure from frame tube to knots.

Either way it is best to replace the entire bridle to insure stretching and knot tightening is the same on both sides over time.

Details of course depend on the kite.

Sam is right, copying a badly stretched bridle will likely give odd if not poor results.  Measure a newer kite if possible.

Note sure this helps much...
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 05:29 PM »

   That is what I did do . I made the left a copy of the right. But to no avail. It didn't seem to be quite right and flys slugish and slow to turn. I'll read about bridles and try a new one...Tom
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 05:51 PM »

Probably have a stretched bridle and one leg is now proportionally longer than the other legs and therefore moving the towpoints to a less desirable location . Sad Will want to find the original measurements or spend time with trial and error tweaking to get towpoint where is should be.  A frustrating situation  Sad
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 06:02 PM »

Check all the connections, it's possible some bits came loose after taking that kind of punishment. I wouldn't be surprised if the sail stretched as well.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 09:43 PM »

I think it's your arms that got stretched out in that 50MPH wind.  Huh
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 12:36 AM »

    Well those kites sell for 12 dollars plus ship so I'm ordering another and will make up a few spares . I had two of the kites originally but the first one was put down on its back and the guy I was flying with was a smoker and the kite was right on top of a burning cig butt and melted  a huge hole in the sail. So I had spares but lost the bridle in amongst all the kite lines in my stuff someware.   But all that being said you can't beat the K-44 for cheap fun. Its a huge kite that goes thru the power band with a roar and pull that will stand hairs on your neck even in much less wind. Theres another kite I think it's called a Kratos ? ? ? that flys about like the K- 44 but costs alot more. One BIG diff. is the K is not rip / stop but a plain material of some sort. Well for the money ........The 12 dollar K-44  is 102" x 30" thats an 8 and a half footer that is alot of fun for the money......Tom
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 04:33 AM »

Theres another kite I think it's called a Kratos ? ? ?


Kratos is the right name. It's a kite by New Tech.

 

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 07:32 AM »

    Well those kites sell for 12 dollars plus ship so I'm ordering another and will make up a few spares .........The 12 dollar K-44  is 102" x 30" thats an 8 and a half footer that is alot of fun for the money......Tom

Well heck yeah, I see they are even cheaper by the dozen at McGill's, I don't see them any longer at $12 for a single   Sad   although a case still gets the cost under $10 each  Cool

Be cool to have a few in the bag to toss around or pass along on the field.

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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 08:17 PM »

FRom what I can find out the K-44 is made with garment grade nylon (wind breaker material) with fiberglass spars.  Bridle is plain old dacron or woven cotton.  PRoblem with those cheap kites is, as you found out, when they break you just toss em and buy another.  Let see you have 2 already so thats $24 =shipping so about $30-35 and you buying another putting you in the $50 and when that one breaks you'll replace it again and again.

Pretty soon you'll be as much if not more than a kratos or similar kite.  If your budget is tight those are decent for cheap thrills while you save for a better one but they do add up fast when you have to keep replacing them.
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