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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 06:11 AM »

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Mike, I disagree, art is allowed

You're dead to me.


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real nice.  Roll Eyes

+1 on everything fidelio said.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 07:09 AM »

Devin it's all good,  in context to our banter, I would have expected nothing less, and it reminds me I've got to learn how to post 'other' avatars.... or maybe not Smiley

@FH I had it out the other day for a qick spin, tried it on longer lines, I got a lot to learn Smiley Oh and on the manifesto thingy... Here I suspect is another part of my horrendous ramblings I chose to badge the M word.... Wink

Now everyone, I'm not asking for a philosophical debate, we have heaps of those, I want "words in a line that say something"...

This is different from talking about

[Mikes soup **** picture]

No Chat, just words!!

If you want you can hide your sensitive selves by PM'ing your 'prose' to me and I will handle it with Assange like skill Wink
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 07:22 AM »

Beachbum (hope your flying Cool dude) called his kite his 'main whip' I'd never heard that phrase before, and well, it made it sound 'kool'... I'm wondering what else is out there  Undecided,  think of it if you will as some 'Rafa' wording...
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 07:45 AM »

I would say that Mr Wardley really nailed it, but also that 'less is more' editing down to.....,.

Freestyle is about letting the moment unfold. Freestyle is everywhere. It is the way of the Tao. Everything flows.

Rearrange the lines and I think you may even be able to create a haiku!

Smiley

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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2011, 10:16 AM »

I know there are a few kite flyers named Art out there and I don't think they should be excluded.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2011, 09:02 PM »

Freestyle is just that though...  "Undefined"    Its a blend of everything in its own unique way and never the same twice.  Toss figures, old school tricks, new school tricks, kite, pilot and pilots mood into a blender and what you get in the end is freestyle.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 12:55 AM »

Tom, you're on the right track but read it as a Layman, we'll probably want the word kite in there Wink

Anthony,   Cheesy You're not helping... Wink i don't want to hear it's 'undefined' and i don't think it's undefinable, the sense you get from it may, but we're just talking kite flying, it's not string theory Smiley

We're putting on a little freestyle demo at our local annual kite festival, the flyer said "kite flying demonstration" the think is those 3 words say squat about what someone will see if they go.... so what would you put in it's place?
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2011, 01:02 AM »

Ok how about this then. Freestyle flying is what the pilot wants it to be.  A blend of multiple kite techniques to create a single free flowing display in any way the pilot chooses. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2011, 01:13 AM »

I always go back to Andy Preston's  moment you learn to anticipate soliloquy from Tricky Flickery.

I never quote it correctly but it is along the lines of:

"There is a moment of non-control (un-control?) that you learn to anticipate."

That and a quite a few other bits of sound advice like:

"Be gentle on the ground, aggressive in the air"

Being a bad actor quote-wise but A.P. pretty much covers it for me.

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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2011, 06:22 AM »

OooH OOOH Mr Cotter Mr Cotter [said in best Horseshake voice

'Putting String Theory into Practice'

Huhh HuHH See what I did there!?!



That's gold I tell you, GOLD!!
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2011, 07:56 AM »

Just how many axes of rotation are there?  Roll Eyes
You are pronouncing the plural of axis correctly, aren't you ?


Mike.

Pretty sure that to pronounce the plural of axis you must spell it properly....it would be 'axae'

Just want to make sure all the semantics are kept legit Wink

Jim

PS:  I also beleive that time is linear and can't be included in axae?
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2011, 08:11 AM »

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OooH OOOH Mr Cotter Mr Cotter [said in best Horseshake voice

'Putting String Theory into Practice'

Huhh HuHH See what I did there!?!

That's gold I tell you, GOLD!!

We may need different definition/descriptions of freestyle kiting for different purposes:

- A description of what the layperson will see - Interesting to watch?
- Describe what we are doing for ourselves - Skill/style.
- Our internal feeling of flow or Zen - Om.
- Convince the Olympic committee our sport is worthy -There now I did it!  Embarrassed
- How our activities fit into the metaphysical space time continuum - Huh?  Wink

My earlier definition was an attempt to combine the first two. Flow or zen is fine for the third.  The fourth will happen along with Freestyle yo-yos due to public perception for one. I don't even understand the last Smiley

Lots of fun to watch the discussion....
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2011, 08:17 AM »

I believe axes is the commonly accepted plural of axis. Though I think pitch & yaw are the only really relevant axes of rotation in dual line kites.
And I agree, time is continual, linear, without axis.
Back on subject. Putting a descriptor on something that has a different meaning to so many is a challenge. For me freestyle flying is indescribably invigorating.

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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2011, 08:36 AM »


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The 'pilot' of a Sports Kite is as much artist as athlete, If we were to fly in a 'gallery' many of the forms that are flown could just as easily be described as, “Intimate visual studies in environmental awareness and fluid dynamics, using a highly tuned sports kite as a 4 dimensional brush”.

But we don't generally fly in galleries, the canvas of choice that the pilot chooses is the sky, And our medium?  Quite simply, it's the wind.

A highly interactive and intuitive style of kite flying, The freestyle pilots roll is seen more as that of a guide rather than of a master. At most a pilot only ever asks for their kites co-operation,


The expression, in it's highest form is considered by it's practitioners as much as 'artful play' as 'disciplined structure'.
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I think this sums it up rather nicely.   Grin
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2011, 08:37 AM »

May I give it a shot?

Freestyle flying is being One.
You, your kite and the element.
Fly it smooth or fly hard.
Fly it gracefully or aggresively.
Fly it 150 feet or fly it 15 feet.
Fly it indoor or fly it outdoor.
Fly it in countryside or Urban.
Cause freestyle is in you.
Freestyle is your style.
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