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« on: March 31, 2011, 01:17 PM »

so, been checking out these gliders, very nice. I'm leaning towards the 200 with the best wind range of the lot, I'll be doing around 100% of my flying outdoors unless I can find an inside venue, no luck so far.  Of the 130, 200, and 240, what are the pros and cons of each, does one outglide the others, or excel more in no wind, I would assume the 240 and 130 with a much smaller wind range would be best for this, but as I said, the 200 looks to be the best all rounder if you could only have one.

Also, any comparisons to the Skate or Manta would be appreciated. The Hybrid really appeals to me from vids I've seen, like the looks of the kite being more delta shaped, just wish there was a bit of color choice....

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 02:06 PM »

Not sure about the others but here is some comments on the 200.

http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=1754.15


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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 02:24 PM »

I had read that, appreciate it anyway, hoping to hear from folks that have or have flown two if not all three versions. Don't you have a Skate and/or Manta too? What's your opinion on the Hybrid compared to them String?
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 03:29 PM »

I've enjoyed the 200 for a couple years now.  It flies great, spins, glides.  It is my go-to kite when there's no wind outdoors and lately it has replaced the Skate as my kite of choice for indoor demos.

I had the 130 out yesterday again and can't quite get the handle on it.  I suspect that this size suffers from being made slightly heavier than the original design just so it can be "mass produced".  For me the 130 spends more time flying into the ground than I like.  It could be that I just haven't spent enough time with it or maybe the bridle needs tweaked.  I bet a fighter kite pilot would have better luck.

I tried the 240 briefly last weekend.  It didn't seem all that much better indoors than the 200.  And as I was flying it, I was thinking about the $300 price tag.

As far as wind range goes, I think these gliders are at their best in virtually no wind.  Otherwise, it is tough to take advantage of beautiful spins and ability to fly upwind.  Any higher than 1 mph, and I reach for a different kite.

For the money, I'd say the 200 is a good bet.  To jump to the next size up, I've been looking at the Long Way Home from Horvath with a 9' wingspan.  Wondering if I could get one for under $500. (ouch)

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 11:58 PM »

You'll be very happy with the 200. I have all three plus a Manta, skate, Plutz, 661/49 and Liama, and the Horvath Hybrid 200 and 240 are the best of all. The Hybrid kites were designed from scratch the be the most efficient glider kites available. There's a lot of science and aerodynamics behind the design of these kites. They were not made to be the most colorful kite in the sky, but to be the best at what it does, and that's gliding. I fly mostly the 200 mainly because the park I fly at is not large enough to take advantage of the 240. I also use a control stick (wand) so I can stand in one place (I'm an old fart). I fly them only out doors and prefer a breeze I can hardly feel for the longest down wind glides. If the kite starts to flap (buzz) then the wind is to high. For such a light kite they are pretty durable.   
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 06:16 AM »

yea.... all that glider and Tony said.
 Although I only have the 240 and have not flown the smaller ones.  I love my Manta and it's size but it's slower and just does everything slower than the 240. I don't fly indoors and for me the Skate's frame is just too light for any really outdoor wisps of wind.  For me it distorts a little to easy.   The Hybrid 200  would be a good choice between the three Hybrids although for me area and weight, lift, size does matter.... Grin Cheesy.   I also would like to get a "Long Way Home" though.

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 06:48 AM »

thanx guys, really appreciate that info, sounds like the 200 is the ticket as I felt it was. I see what I'll be doing this summer as the winds die down to nothingness.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 08:48 AM »

Bill,  Plan to go out after work (if it will ever stop freakin raining!!!) and play with the ultralights.  Will take some pictures of my 240 and others.   

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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 09:05 AM »

cool Park, the sun just finally popped out here a few minutes ago, we had ice falling yesterday, I feel your pain. Going to check with the local kite pusher on the Hybrid, never thought active ULSLK's would cause me such interest, but they do.

P.S.~~got a 200 on order, about a two week delay in shipping, I'm patient, I think...
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 01:05 PM »

If you want to see some pictures of my Hybrids go here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Tonycarl60/20100415Kites#
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2011, 01:44 PM »

nice collection dude, very cool looking Plutz. I see the 200 Hybrid literally dwarf's the 130. Very nice BM 61/49 too. If there was as much time as there are kites in the collection, it'd be good, my problem for sure.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2011, 03:30 PM »

Thanks! One of the benefits of being retired is...................more time Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2011, 06:58 PM »

Great kites tony, a wonderful selection.
 Finally got some nice weather Friday and light air. Flew the 240, XL Wala, and Laima.  The Hybrid still has the sweetest most wonderful glide of them.
Some pics. 


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