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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2011, 12:17 PM »

I really don't see how complaining about trick definitions and the such have ANYTHING to do with people's top 10 kites list. 
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2011, 12:41 PM »

Well, I personally prefer that threads get hijacked, esp. ones that are redundant to content already on GWTW and elsewhere.  It means that folks are discussing something worth reading.  Thanks for changing the title.

As far as Denny comment about rolled up being rolled up...that's is not at all true.  But of course, Denny is a competent flier and knows this. 

A yo-fade wraps the lines in one direction, and a standard roll up in the other...right??  So by definition, a backspin is probably easier in one configuration than the other...because the lines are on top in one and on the bottom in the other.

I'd like to see a video of a standard rolled up backspin.  Not sure I have seen that one.  I could be mistaken.

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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2011, 12:57 PM »

Thanks for hijacking the thread....
I cleared it with the board moderator and he was fine with it. People should still feel free to add their personal list of reverences in spite of this diversion into talk about flying kites.

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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2011, 12:59 PM »

If you ever write a book, I will buy a first edition hard bound Mr. 8.  Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2011, 01:04 PM »

Obi, thats all I was trying to point out. You did a better job of that than I did, thanks.

I do not ever recall seeing a standard roll up taken into a backspin either, it would be a cool trick though and I would bet there is someone out there that will pull it off at some point.

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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2011, 01:11 PM »

If you ever write a book, I will buy a first edition hard bound Mr. 8.  Smiley

+1. He's my favourite. ;-)
Could we get Jay to write the prologue though?

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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2011, 01:55 PM »

Obi, thats all I was trying to point out. You did a better job of that than I did, thanks.

I do not ever recall seeing a standard roll up taken into a backspin either, it would be a cool trick though and I would bet there is someone out there that will pull it off at some point.



I wasn't saying a yofade backspin was done by rolling the kite backwards like you would for a Lewis. A yofade backspin is done by rolling the kite forward into the fade position. Rather hard to get a backspin from a lazy susan position. What I was saying is either way, the kite is rolled up.

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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2011, 03:44 PM »

Tell you what, send me an updated trick book and I will work on seeing what "new" tricks out of that book I can learn and then try on my elixir.

Well you, or anyone else, could start with the latest Tricks Party listing, tick off all points on the Mindmap then see if you've pulled off what these folks have managed. I mean... if you want to do all the tricks in the book.

It's a big book, written in more than one language.

BTW how does the Elixir handle Multiyoyos (and variations thereof) ?

Mike.
THanks for the links. I looked but the tricksparty website is no longer active and the list of tricks I was able to find is 5 years old.  As for multi yoyos, the only source I can send you to to see at least one variation is prisms trickshow 2 vid on the freestyle pilot dvd.  THat was either Mark Reed or Jon Weldon doing a 3-5 wrap fruit rollup.  I've managed a double yoyo and fruit roll up as well as a double wrap lewis but my roll up tricks are still works in progress and I will state it again that the elixir can do them but you have to catch both upper LE fittings to do multiwraps unless you add stoppers.  Adding stoppers and yoyo glides similar to what the q-pro has should make roll up tricks more reliable.  HEck without the stops and roll bars pretty much all modern kites would have the same issues with roll up tricks the elixir has.  THat doesn't mean they can't be done.
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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2011, 04:04 PM »

I'm starting to think this thread will be able to set a new GWTW record for how many times the name is changed.............I can't even remember the original subject.........oh that's right......it was 'How many kites can you fit into a 10 kite list?'

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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2011, 04:07 PM »

...you have to catch both upper LE fittings ....
Is that right ? Ordinarily this position is way too high to be effective and APAs don't offer a big catch area. IIRC the Elixir, at least for single wraps, didn't catch on anything.

Mike,
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« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2011, 04:32 PM »

Here is my list of kites that changed the way I flew (or at least changed the way I thought about flying).
Prism Fanatic.  Simply because it was the first "real " sport kite I owned and the kite with which I learned most tricks.
Prism Vapor.  First SUL and introduced me to the joys of low/no wind flying.
Benson Outer Space.  My first free kite courtesy Into the Wind. It did what limited tricks I could do at that time with grace.  Could have been one of my favorite all time kites if I didn't find it so damn ugly
Benson Gemini.  It was THE KITE at that time.
Blue Moon Mamba.  My first BMK.  One of the best pure flying experiences.
TrickTail Ultra Lite.  Forever changed the way I approached sport kite flying.

Please feel free to disagree strongly with any of my choices or comments.  My skin is rather thick after many years on this and other kite forums and rec.kites. 
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« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2011, 04:41 PM »

Here is my list of kites that changed the way I flew (or at least changed the way I thought about flying).
Benson Outer Space.  My first free kite courtesy Into the Wind. It did what limited tricks I could do at that time with grace.  Could have been one of my favorite all time kites if I didn't find it so damn ugly
TrickTail Ultra Lite.  Forever changed the way I approached sport kite flying.

Please feel free to disagree strongly with any of my choices or comments.  My skin is rather thick after many years on this and other kite forums and rec.kites. 

Funny, I think the Trick Tails are rather ugly also
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« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2011, 04:46 PM »

You are aware I can track your IP.
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« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2011, 04:50 PM »

You are aware I can track your IP.
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« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2011, 04:51 PM »

Also you have proven yourself unqualified to make any comment as any  knowledgeable flier worth their salt (particularly someone that owns one) knows the kite is a TrickTail and not a Trick Tail.
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