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Author Topic: Need Information on Lines to use with TOTL Hawaiian Team Kite  (Read 1789 times)
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« on: June 07, 2011, 09:20 PM »

Hello Everyone,
I'm relatively new to the forum and a newbie.  Actually a raw rookie to stunt kite flying - I can do the basic left and right turns, a loop the loop or two, and a relatively straight line parallel to the ground - but not too close.  I want to learn more, but don't have much time.
Anyway, I recently bought a TOTL Hawaiian Team Kite in Rainbow Chevron.  It was on the local craigslist at a ridiculously good price, so I couldn't resist the opportunity to own a classic kite.  However, it was only the kite, no lines.  And I haven't found what weight and length lines to use on the kite.
Also, from what I've read on the Forum and elsewhere, I gather that the TOTL Hawaiian Team Kite can be a really strong puller.  So I'm wondering if maybe I should put it away until I become a better pilot.  Or perhaps offer it on the Swap Meet to someone who may appreciate it even more, or be better able to fly it.
Any comments, help, or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 10:06 PM »

Well if you want to offer it up at a ridiculously good price, I might be interested

As far as pull, it will drag you around in a strong wind, but it will fly great

recommend 150# line

Does it have whiskers? (stand offs)

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 08:16 AM »

I use 150# for mine.
I would also be interested if you offered it up. Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 08:30 AM »

Ha... I might be interested too if the sales fell thru. Wink

I'm using #200 though.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 12:31 PM »

I like to use lighter line, my thought is I would rather break a line than the kite.

BTW, I have only broke a line one time while straight flying, and that was with some line that was 12-15 years old.

I have crossed line with others, that resulted in a cut line
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 12:32 PM »

200 lb I think was the recommended line weight on those, we used 150 feet of 200 lb Kevlar before Spectra was available. You should be fine with 150 lb in reasonable winds and you'll get more use out of them. If you have the stock lines from your Hypnotist (150lb x 85') hook it up as long as the wind isn't real strong, I'd prefer longer (see below) but they'll work to get it in the air.

I would consider 100-120+ foot lines if you have the room to fly them, the kite is most enjoyable with a large window. I've flown one on lines as short as 50 feet and was surprised I could complete turns before finding the ground. They are not tight turning kites, although with a well timed push/pop you can pivot them somewhat like a half axel, I was doing those back in 1987 on mine.

If the kite doesn't have "Whiskers" (standoffs from the spreader to those center battens) do add them, without them the sail will luff at the edge of the window and fall out of the sky, plus the kite is very hard to relaunch once on the ground since the flat sail will not catch anything to stand back up and a 300 foot walk each time gets old fast. Give a holler if you need help adding them.

Enjoy that kite, it was probably the most influential kite ever produced and introduced so many enthusiasts to kiting. It and the TOTL Flight Squadron rode the beginnings of organized Sport Kiting pretty much dominating the sport over those first few years. They set the bar all the others had to beat. Todays kites are better but there's still nothing like the power, noise and attention that kite will get when it roars through a 300 foot ground pass.

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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 04:14 PM »

I have found this kite much more fun to fly on longer lines.  I have used 200# 150' lines as a standard for the Hawiian.  You can use shorter lines, but the kite will not pull as hard and it is an awfully big kite fly so close to you.  Everytime I hooked mine up to shorter lines, it took about two minutes to get me to switch back to longer lines.  Have fun, it is a great kite!!
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 04:51 PM »

I use to sell them in my kite shop and I am sure 200 lb. was what was suggested back then. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 09:18 PM »

From the 1991 Into the Wind Cataloge




Fly with
the Best Team in the Country

The original big wing stunter, this powerful
kite is one of the best looking kites in the sky.
Sti ll the standard for maximum precision, it's a
strong pulling, moderate speed kite that's very
popular for team formation flying.
Made of lightweight nylon sailcloth and
tubular fiberglass spars, it's well reinforced at
stress points. Stand-offs give it good light wind
performance and easy self-launching.
8'-0" x 3'-10". 19.8-oz. 66/36" case and standoffs
included. Colors as shown. Use 200-lb. line.
#730 Chevron Team Kite $179
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keep in mind today's lines are much better than 20 years ago

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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 09:27 PM »

From the 1991 Into the Wind Cataloge




Fly with
the Best Team in the Country

The original big wing stunter, this powerful
kite is one of the best looking kites in the sky.
Sti ll the standard for maximum precision, it's a
strong pulling, moderate speed kite that's very
popular for team formation flying.
Made of lightweight nylon sailcloth and
tubular fiberglass spars, it's well reinforced at
stress points. Stand-offs give it good light wind
performance and easy self-launching.
8'-0" x 3'-10". 19.8-oz. 66/36" case and standoffs
included. Colors as shown. Use 200-lb. line.
#730 Chevron Team Kite $179
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keep in mind today's lines are much better than 20 years ago




Pretty sure 200 pounds weighs the same as it did 20 years ago Tongue Tongue Tongue
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