Any Silver fox 2.3 pro pilots out there?

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[aaron j.]

Hello Norm,

My measurements are to the tow point:
Upper Outhaul=24"
Lower Outhaul= 20 1/2"
Inhaul= 25"


Yours:
Upper Outhaul= 24 1/2" (default bridle setting)
Lower Outhaul= 21 1/4"
Inhaul= 26 1/4"


Where is your keeper line on the inhaul at?

[NormP]

Hello Norm,

My measurements are to the tow point:
Upper Outhaul=24"
Lower Outhaul= 20 1/2"
Inhaul= 25"


Yours:
Upper Outhaul= 24 1/2" (default bridle setting)
Lower Outhaul= 21 1/4"
Inhaul= 26 1/4"

Where is your keeper line on the inhaul at?

Upper Outhaul: If you were to move your Upper Outhaul to below the APA fitting it would probably give you the 1/2" to make it the same as mine.

Lower Outhaul: 3/4" of an inch difference can be some slight measuring errors between us.

Inhaul: Try moving yours out to 26 1/4". Never hurts to try.

My keeper line as measured out from the Spine to the mark is 9 3/4". The top as you know is fixed and the bottom slides all over, which I plan to fix tonight. As you probably already know, only work with one side of the bridle at a time so you can always go back and check the opposite side to get (what we hope) is the correct measurement.

[aaron j.]

I checked my inhaul again, we moved my inhaul's larks knot in between the knots at the base of the pigtail (see pic). Even if I put it where it was orignally ( in front of the first knot of the pigtail ) I would only get a measurement of
25 1/2". I would have to slide knots and lengthen the inhaul to get a measurement of 26 1/4 like you have.
Our upper outhaul line placement would throw all our adjustment off, right?

[NormP]

First off, my Inhaul line has always been in between the knots and is slid all the way down to the double wrap prusik at the default bridle mark. I think this is the proper configuration for a dynamic three point bridle. The inhaul line should remain the same length no matter where you put it. If you were to remove it from the kite it will only be ONE length. So, it's the same when you put it on the kite. When I said to try moving yours out I should have said to loosen up the double wrap prusik and make the Inhaul longer. The adjustment for the Inhaul line is at the Spine end.

[NormP]

Did you receive any brochure or pamphlet with your kite? For that matter did anybody that bought this kite receive a brochure or pamphlet with bridle measurements included?

[NormP]

I don't think it will make any difference to your other measurements on the bridle by moving the Upper Outhaul Line down below the APA fitting. You can always move it back if need be.

[NormP]

Back to Upper Outhaul: Did you check to see which knot your Larkshead was sitting on top of?

Mine was sitting on top of the third knot from the bottom.

[justinpwheeler]

Guys, my bridles are attached ABOVE the US fittings and BELOW the LS c-clips.  Just not sure where you all are measuring the outhauls to. To the knot where the two out hauls intersect the upper is 24.25". The lower is about 20.25".  The line between the outhauls and inhaul is 2".  The inhaul measures 25.5".  The keeper is 9" away from spine, 6.875" from US fitting attachment and measures 13.75" on my kite.  All settings are at the factory markings.  I did notice the prussic knots had slipped some.  Knots and larkshead would have been ideal like was stated earlier, but what do I know? 

[aaron j.]

Thanks for all your help Norm,
I did not get no instructions and neither did the guy I bought the kite from. When I got the kite the inhaul line was outside the knots leading towards the end of the pig tail. I will put that where you have yours and give it a try tomorrow if I have decent enough winds to fly.

I lengthen my inhaul as you noted from near the spine. Upon adjust I found one side was off by about a inch. I set them to 26 1/4.

[NormP]

justin: All of your measurements are closer to Aaron's than mine. Mine is probably the "Friday Kite", but I'm keeping this Jacobs Ladder machine just the way it is set up.  

[NormP]

Thanks for all your help Norm,
I did not get no instructions and neither did the guy I bought the kite from. When I got the kite the inhaul line was outside the knots leading towards the end of the pig tail. I will put that where you have yours and give it a try tomorrow if I have decent enough winds to fly.

I lengthen my inhaul as you noted from near the spine. Upon adjust I found one side was off by about a inch. I set them to 26 1/4.

Keep us posted as to how things work out. You can always return to your previous settings.

[NormP]

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[NormP]

aaron......After thinking about this for a couple days I remembered the original Silver Fox series had two flying modes. 3 point mode and turbo mode. So in your picture if you were to slide the larkshead down toward the tow point you would have a 3 point mode. If you were to loosen the larkhead and set it on top of the overhand knot (where you said yours originally was) you would have a Turbo mode. My Silver Fox Pro came with the bridle at 3 point. Also keep in mind the original Fox had 3 point/Turbo settings at four places.



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[aaron j.]

Thanks Norm I will give it a try! Sorry to see you go from the kite scene. I thank you for all the help you have given me on my SF 2.3 Pro. I like the SF more now, I think the problem was my inexperience and that I was flying it too hard. I like the kite a lot just wish the bridle was black instead of white.

[NormP]

aaron......you might want to do this to make all bridle attachment points easier to adjust.

1. Untie the double wrap prusic knot at the lower leading edge. Do not untie the pre-formed loop end.
2. Now tie four overhand knots separated equally in the pigtail you just exposed.
3. Now form a larkshead knot with the exposed loop and place it over which ever overhand knot will give you the proper bridle length.
4. If you don't understand this, let me know and we'll stay with it until you do. You can let me know if you do understand.
5. Now all you need to do to make adjustments is loosen the larkshead and place it on another knot.
6. Now do the same at the Spine.
7. Make sure all your bridle measurements are correct.



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