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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2012, 03:32 PM »

A good early trick to learn is the belly landing / popup launch / fade.  Get that down and the flick-flack (non-French) is easy to learn, so you get 4 in 1.

It's gets the flyer comfortable with the kite being near / touching the ground but under control and also helps recovering from unplanned nose-plants when you are learning other new tricks and the kite somehow ends up powering down the window.  A nice quick one and it even looks planned!  Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2012, 03:32 PM »

I dont let go of the straps very often but sometimes you catch a wing tip in high winds and the kite does the "death spin". I find letting go of one of the straps and running forward seems to get it down safely and slowly. I think in my 2 years of flying I have done this twice....Def a last resort in my opinion.

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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2012, 03:42 PM »

Along with the flic flac (especially the flare/pancake part), I think the 1/2 axel (or part a comete) is also paramount for avoiding nose plants... They are the fastest ways I know of to kill some or all drive (sail load) and send the nose in another direction, and they can be done from almost any orientation.

I also use the 1/2 axel to get out of tip-wrap generated death spins, along with kind of a comete input (as bad as my comete is).

For terminal death spins (i.e. broken line), they key is just to get that sucker depowered and down to the ground... Run like hell, keep the one good line held back behind your hips, then at the moment it's going to hit the ground, release the hand forward QUICKLY to totally depower the spin, and keep jogging so it doesn't fill up and start again, goal being to get the kite immobilized (like face down).

Of course, just in my own experience.
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« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2012, 04:59 PM »

Yep my panic movement when something fails nose down and powered up too close to the ground is the half axel too like John B says. A one hand punch followed with a pull will depower the kite. Sometimes the pull sets you back up to fly away sometimes not but the kite didn't power into the ground nose first and relaunch is usually easy.
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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2012, 05:33 PM »

2 pt landing is essentially a half axel into the ground, could also just land.   But, if you can do that, then you can just turn.
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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2012, 06:46 PM »

A good early trick to learn is the belly landing / popup launch / fade.  Get that down and the flick-flack (non-French) is easy to learn, so you get 4 in 1.
Now here's some sound advice, but I think you could add the French Flic-Flac to the list.
I've tried everything I know to get one of the forum members doing this, but to no avail.
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« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2012, 08:02 PM »

Quote from: Norm Pulliam link=topic=5695.msg59613#msg59613 I think you could add the French Flic-Flac to the list.
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What is the French Flic-Flac?
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« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2012, 08:16 PM »

Ah, you're talking about the t-piece, not the ferrule - duh on me, got it now...

I don't doubt your experience, I'm just surprised as Spence and I have both run my kites through the ringer and haven't broken one yet.

Let my daughter fly it. She will break it for you...

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 So where can I get a replacement?

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« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2012, 08:54 PM »

Quote from: Wayner link=topic=5695.msg59615#msg59615 date=1325649750
[quote author=Norm Pulliam link=topic=5695.msg59613#msg59613 I think you could add the French Flic-Flac to the list.
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What is the French Flic-Flac?

It is no more than an over rotated Flic-Flac. Rotate it until the nose is pointed back towards you and then unroll it.
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« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2012, 10:44 PM »

No offense but I find its crazy you let your daughter fly your kites to begin with!  Huh Huh
Why dont you just get her a nexus or quantum? Let her beat the heck out of it.
I think I paid $17 for my first stunt kite, this was 2 years ago....I found it amusing.
Im sure an 11 year old girl could have fun with a kite that is a little more resiliant....heck if its purple im sure that will be enuf. Im not surprised the kymera broke.....these high end kites should have an age window.
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« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2012, 10:50 PM »

No offense but I find its crazy you let your daughter fly your kites to begin with!  Huh Huh
Why dont you just get her a nexus or quantum? Let her beat the heck out of it.
I think I paid $17 for my first stunt kite, this was 2 years ago....I found it amusing.
Im sure an 11 year old girl could have fun with a kite that is a little more resiliant....heck if its purple im sure that will be enuf. Im not surprised the kymera broke.....these high end kites should have an age window.

  YEa this is a bit over the top.  MY 5 year old nephew flies and crashes my zephyr a lot and hasn't broke anything on it yet.  IF he pile drives it the tail velcro pops loose, spine slides in the T a bit and thats it.  I just put the spine back in the nose close the velcor and its flying again.
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« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2012, 11:03 PM »

So where can I get a replacement?

Kirby
See if Steve here at GWTW has a replacement t-piece for you... If not, PM me and I can suggest a couple of other places that may the part for you. Wink
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« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2012, 11:15 PM »

All im saying is until you can atleast do an axel on a kite like a quantum or nexus...i dont see the point in flying something like a kymera. I keep my quantum in my bag in case a new flyer wants to give it a try, i dont just let them fly anything..... To each their own.....
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« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2012, 11:44 PM »

Makes sense to me Adam.
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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2012, 04:47 AM »

No offense but I find its crazy you let your daughter fly your kites to begin with!  Huh Huh
Why dont you just get her a nexus or quantum? Let her beat the heck out of it.
I think I paid $17 for my first stunt kite, this was 2 years ago....I found it amusing.
Im sure an 11 year old girl could have fun with a kite that is a little more resiliant....heck if its purple im sure that will be enuf. Im not surprised the kymera broke.....these high end kites should have an age window.


No, not crazy at all. There are some 11 year olds that can fly circles around 95% of the rest of us. Really, the cost of the kite doesn't matter, if you can get a kid interested in flying, it's worth the risk. Some of my friends though I was nuts giving my 2 year old son the lines of my Prism 4D for his first solo flights. Didn't matter, he had a blast, and the kite survived. Of course, now he calls it 'his kite'. Let him think that... he's got something he likes & is special to him, maybe it will help to keep his interest. Much better than one of those 4D-DS electronic gizmos.


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