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Author Topic: Sport Kite or Stunt Kite ?  (Read 4607 times)
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« on: July 07, 2011, 06:52 AM »

Hey there...

This is something that I was thinking about last night...

2 or 4 line kiting, is it a 'sport' or a pastime ? The side by side trick competition is the only activity that I can think of that is kind of a grey area, it almost makes kite flying a sport. Maybe speed kiting, too.

I think of the definition of sports as what would be in the Olympics, or what people would watch on TV. But that gets a little grey, because people watch things like golf, bowling, and darts on TV. I mean, darts might be a sport if the players threw the darts at each other...

I don't know, I'd like to hear other's thoughts, could be interesting.

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 07:13 AM »

2 or 4 line kiting, is it a 'sport' or a pastime ?

It's a sporting pastime, like competitive eating. For instance, UK Sport - the body that replaced the British Sports Council - does not recognise what we do as a sport but does recognise swimming, which has a sporting~competitive element but is not mainly carried out as a sport (in my case it's a means of escape in extreme situations).

We humans can turn almost anything into a competition and ergo a sport. It doesn't mean that the activity is in itself or primarily a sport. Although there is a section in this very forum called Sport Kites we don't talk about them primarily in a sporting context.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 07:15 AM »

It probably depends on how strict you want to be with the definition. I've been a cyclist since I was 14 but I don't compete but I try to ride hard and get a little better every time I go out. Is it a hobby or a sport? Is a sport anything where you're getting some kind of exercise or use some kind of skill? If you're practicing snap stalls in 10+ wind, you're doing a lot of running to keep the stall. I'd probably go with sport. If you're flying a SLK maybe it's a hobby. --sport kite--
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 07:44 AM »

It probably depends on how strict you want to be with the definition.

Which reminds me - we are all using the same definition of "sport", aren't we ?

Please note the "competition" aspect on which sport stands or falls. Thus:-
  • Virtual Freestyle is a sporting event
  • "Is this a 540 ?" is not

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 07:48 AM »

I won't get into sport or hobby, it is what you make it I think.

But we started using the term Sport Kite over Stunt Kite because the term 'Stunt' sort of denoted a dangerous aspect and there has long been a concern that an accident could get us banned from some parks.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 08:05 AM »

I won't get into sport or hobby, it is what you make it I think.

In a nutshell.

Some people approach it as a kind of sport - competitive, and demanding a certain level of fitness and conditioning.  Flying aggressively at either extreme of the wind range requires both the mind and body to be up to the task.

Lots of folks approach it as a relaxing hobby - no rules, points, or doing anything that isn't comfortable or fun.

Both are valid ways to spend time on the kite field.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 08:42 AM »

for some its just an addiction!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 09:14 AM »

It's more of a sport than a stunt.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 09:22 AM »

Surely a 'Sport' is a competitive match between 2 or more teams of 1 or more persons whereas a 'Pastime' is a non competitive recreational activity......this has nothing to do with the fact that the bylaws at my local field states that "no sports other than Football and Cricket may be played" whereas "Recreational Pastimes are permitted"   Grin
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 11:27 AM »

I don't think competition is necessary for an activity to be a sport.

The vast majority of skiers, snowboarders, kiteboarders, bikers, runners, etc, never compete or even have access to competition but to say snow skiing or mountain biking isn't a sport seems odd.

I don't care if kiting is called a sport, I just don't like the term stunt.

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 11:32 AM »

One of the problems has always been the lack of a definition of a 'sport'. However now the Olympic committee has said they will no longer accept any subjectively judged activities as sports, it does kind of rule out kiting as a sport.

A bit of a bummer since you can get grants for sports.

Hah we got there - the Olympics, its like Godwin's law for kites  Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 12:14 PM »

He said the "O" word!   Huh
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 12:27 PM »

Why does it have to be either?
To me, they're dual line and quad line kites.  Wink

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 12:45 PM »

4 lines good

2 lines better

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 01:50 PM »

I won't get into sport or hobby, it is what you make it I think.

But we started using the term Sport Kite over Stunt Kite because the term 'Stunt' sort of denoted a dangerous aspect and there has long been a concern that an accident could get us banned from some parks.


Numerous people have come up to me while flying and ask "how do you do that with a kite". I usually assume they are not familar with sport/stunt kites so I tell them this is a kite specifically designed for doing tricks. They usually reply "oh a trick kite". I find myself more and more calling it trick flying or kiting. If I am ever in your area I will refrain from mentioning to the Parks people that I am going out to do a few tricks with my kite. Who knows what they might conclude.  Lips sealed
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