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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2011, 03:57 AM »

Very nice...gone try that...thanks vor showing  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2011, 11:30 AM »

Thanks Peter, I saw that new Goff trick video you posted and will be giving it a try myself.
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2011, 06:01 PM »

Sorry, it looks like a combo to me.

But, whatever, you have every right to call it what you want, there's no rules. Plus I can't really talk because I've "invented" stuff and tried to name it. I mean who doesn't know what a reversing hash brownie looks like?  Cheesy Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2011, 08:45 PM »

Sorry, it looks like a combo to me.

But, whatever, you have every right to call it what you want, there's no rules. Plus I can't really talk because I've "invented" stuff and tried to name it. I mean who doesn't know what a reversing hash brownie looks like?  Cheesy Roll Eyes
Isn't that when the hash laced brownie disagrees with you and comes back up Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2011, 10:15 AM »

Sorry, it looks like a combo to me.

What's the difference? Many tricks I know of are combos.
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« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2011, 03:10 PM »

Sorry, it looks like a combo to me.

What's the difference? Many tricks I know of are combos.


You maybe should have said you invented a new combo.

But then I still would have said something because it's not a new combo.  You're doing a quick pop up to fade to lateral roll to yoyo. So what if I did your new trick but added a one and a half rotation back spin before the yoyo? Or what if instead of the yoyo I did a jacobs ladder? Should we name all those variations? 

Like I said, there are no rules, name this thing whatever you want, it makes no difference.  The only reason I'm commenting is because this is a kite forum and that's what we do on here. Anything claimed to be a new trick is going to get scrutinized.
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2011, 07:04 AM »

It's a cool trick or combo or whatever averyone wants to call it... AND ... In the "Title" of this thread it says "New trick ?" and I think the "?" is important information...  Wink Wink
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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2011, 08:36 AM »

Thanks Peter, I saw that new Goff trick video you posted and will be giving it a try myself.


That trick is silly.  Watch at 0:18 in this video.  There is another at 1:18.  Simply the coolest new move I have seen recently for sure.  He is really from another planet on that Fury 85. 

Adventure to Purley Way


That's Chris doing a real trick.  He is bouncing the wing tip and then using the spring to enter a taz machine/540.  NO ONE has ever done this one, even by accident.

That's a Goff IMHO.

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2011, 04:58 PM »

That is a sweet combo. Looks great.

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That's Chris doing a real trick.  He is bouncing the wing tip and then using the spring to enter a taz machine/540.  NO ONE has ever done this one, even by accident.

I'd avoid ever saying that. It's a tomahawk tip stab to a reverse coin toss. Probably invented in the 1990's. 
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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2011, 06:58 PM »

Sorry, it looks like a combo to me.

What's the difference? Many tricks I know of are combos.


You maybe should have said you invented a new combo.

JL, Lewis, etc. and many more, those are combos and named tricks too. Combos are tricks but tricks aren't necessarily combos, Axel, 540, Kick Turn etc. those are tricks but not combos Smiley

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But then I still would have said something because it's not a new combo.  You're doing a quick pop up to fade to lateral roll to yoyo.

There is no Fade or Yo Yo in the trick. I should have isolated just the trick in all the clips, two have extra stuff, sorry if there is confusion.

The kite is landed in the Flare position then it's a one handed launch which creates a 180 degree pop up putting the kite in the Front Flip, then pop & slack both lines to roll up. If I had immediately unrolled, then that would be a Yo Yo but the rolled up launch is really the trick.

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So what if I did your new trick but added a one and a half rotation back spin before the yoyo? Or what if instead of the yoyo I did a jacobs ladder? Should we name all those variations? 

Those are tricks too. Name them if you want. Personally, I wouldn't name just any of the endless combos but if something is unique and it's in your box of tricks, why not? If it's cool and people pick it up, then it'll stick or otherwise "Fade" Cheesy into trick history.

Or maybe we should stop thinking up tricks now? because every trick that will be invented has been Grin

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Anything claimed to be a new trick is going to get scrutinized.

It's a trick even if it's not new or a combo, I was asking if anyone else knows it or if it was new. I had never seen it before, nor had anyone I had shown it to. So if you've seen it or do it, then that's what I was asking.

I'm still naming it though unless I find it already has one. I'm not calling it Cid's launch either Grin



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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2011, 07:10 PM »

"I'm doing this 'new trick' since last Summer and I have two versions.

1st version is the same as yours...yoyo(I'm about to call it cids take-off   Cheesy )
2nd version is it becomes a JL(see video: starting at 59 seconds)"



(I'm "about" to call it cids take-off  Cheesy)  -  it is not official. 
The trick is not yet named but I secretly called it cids take-off. Cheesy

Name or no name is not important.  The most important thing is that we are enjoying it and it is a cool complex move. Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2011, 07:31 PM »

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The kite is landed in the Flare position then it's a one handed launch which creates a 180 degree pop up putting the kite in the Front Flip, then pop & slack both lines to roll up. If I had immediately unrolled, then that would be a Yo Yo but the rolled up launch is really the trick.

I guess I should have said roll up instead of yoyo.

The 180 degree pop up front flip thing is still the same as a pop up to fade to lateral roll to roll up.  It's not new or special to short cut between moves like that.  So what if you bang it out and do the moves quickly? How does that make it special or new?

Or how about this,
I honestly believe you invented a new trick because I haven't seen it done exactly the same way. I do a similar trick that is slightly different called the  Mutant Tornado 2000.   
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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2011, 07:49 PM »

Thanks Peter, I saw that new Goff trick video you posted and will be giving it a try myself.

That trick is silly. 
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That's Chris doing a real trick. 

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Oh yeah ..... My Dad tricks better than your Dad, so there. Cheesy

Seriously though, that looks cool but I think I may have done that by accident before.
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Or how about this,
I honestly believe you invented a new trick because I haven't seen it done exactly the same way. I do a similar trick that is slightly different called the  Mutant Tornado 2000.   

Post up some video, i'd like to see it if you have got some. Doesn't a Tornado start on its' back nose toward the pilot like a Sleeping Beauty but  keep it backspinning instead of flying away?
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Or how about this,
I honestly believe you invented a new trick because I haven't seen it done exactly the same way. I do a similar trick that is slightly different called the  Mutant Tornado 2000.   

Post up some video, i'd like to see it if you have got some. Doesn't a Tornado start on its' back nose toward the pilot like a Sleeping Beauty but  keep it backspinning instead of flying away?
IF john posed video of some of his flying I think a few Elixir doubters would be surprised.  STill be nice to see more than whats on the prism vids.  Yes tornado is a backspin that starts from a sleeping beauty and its not an easy trick.   I usually end up caching the lines on something on the ground when I try it.  I"ve seen it done 2 ways  spinning on the nose like a top(still on the ground) and rising off the ground.  Mutant tornado IIrc is a popup launch to 540 but not too sure.
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