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« on: September 02, 2011, 05:56 AM »

Hello all,

  So I am going to be in the market for a new kite here in the next month or so and wanted some input on what you all think. I currently have the Talon UL, and I love it. For my next kite I am trying to decide on one either; Talon Std, R-Sky Toxic Std, or the Benson Deep Space Std... Any ideas or thoughts or recomendations? I would love to hear from people that have actually flownt any or all of these kites. I have only flown the Widow Maker and the Talon UL.

 Thanks for all your  help in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 07:47 AM »

I'm sure many people will recommend that you stay with a similar kite and it's a good suggestion. Having kites that fly with similar characteristics helps when the wind changes and you need to change kites, you'll have little or no adjustment to make in flying styles and input timing. If that sounds logical to you then a Talon Standard would be your next logical choice.

I like a bit of variety too though, I've struggled with some tricks and sometimes when picking up a different kite the trick will magically just appear, once figured out I can usually transfer that knowledge to my other kites. That's where getting to fly OPK's (Other Peoples Kites) comes in handy, a few hints and a kite that gives that trick away easier can do wonders.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 08:07 AM »

I'm also in the 'like variety' camp. I've got a Talon UL and a standard Deep Space, and both are phenomenal kites. Yes, different to fly, but that's what I like. You just can't go wrong with a DS in your kite bag.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 08:26 AM »

I have both the Talon std and the DS UL & Std.  I tend to fly the DSs up to 8mph and the Talon in the 8-12mph range.

They are essentially variations on a very similar theme.  The Talon needs less input in the pitch axis, but more in the rotation axis than the DS.  But you won't find either difficult to adjust to after the Talon UL.

Some tricks are easier on the DS and there's just as many others that are easier on the Talon, so you're not going to go far wrong with either.

Nether the DS nor the Talon will sit as deep in the turtle as 'French' style kites like the Toxic, so the timing of any turtle based tricks is more critical.

Build quality is impeccable on the Talon and DS and the price is more competitive than on the Toxic.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 11:39 AM »

If you are shopping around - I've got a couple that you should try! Probably more along the lines of the Toxic than the DS or Talon.

Are you flying this weekend?

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 11:42 AM »

If you are shopping around - I've got a couple that you should try! Probably more along the lines of the Toxic than the DS or Talon.

Are you flying this weekend?

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I will be flying this weekend for sure. I would love to try out some kites. It seems whenever I fly I am the only one around other than the few times i've run into you. I think that Scott is in town for the weekend as well. Maybe if he's around I can fly his Std talon.  Grin Either way I'd love to meet up and fly some new kites ot get an idea. When and where are you planning on being this weekend?
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 11:52 AM »

I will be there today (Fri) from probably 5-7, tomorrow (Sat) evening (around 6) until dark.  Sunday I am not sure, likely noon to 3 or so.   I'll send you my cell #.

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 11:55 AM »

Awesome! Thanks Tom. I will give ya a call or a text when I'm headed out there.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 12:33 PM »

If you are shopping around - I've got a couple that you should try!
Shane, Be careful you might be 'Transformer'ed into a 'Fearless' flyer.  Now where did I leave my coat.  Roll Eyes Embarrassed
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 02:08 PM »

If you are shopping around - I've got a couple that you should try!
Shane, Be careful you might be 'Transformer'ed into a 'Fearless' flyer.  Now where did I leave my coat.  Roll Eyes Embarrassed

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A Devil Transformers pilots into Fearless flyers in a Heartbeat all under his MasterControl.  (I am sure I have missed some).
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2011, 03:02 PM »

If I were you I would get a Talon SUL or Talon Std to fly the full wind range with the SAME kite. This is a key concept to advance as a flyer in my opinion. Don't mix your bag - too much - or at least have the full wind range on your go to kite.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 03:29 PM »

not necessarily a big Talon fan . but i agree with john on this  my first good kites were a set of QP's and now a set of (fearless) i have had a few others but not sets. I think it is easier at least for me to fly kites with similar inputs although the tat is a bit different than the others that's my 6 cents
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 03:50 PM »

If I were you I would get a Talon SUL or Talon Std......
Better make that a Talon Std and a Talon Vent.  Mark doesn't make a SUL.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2011, 11:53 PM »

I'd say get a standard Talon.

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 10:52 AM »

Mark doesn't make a SUL.

Ah, now there's a thing about that... keep a look out. ;-)

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