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Author Topic: 540+360=900???? No way Vertigo..  (Read 876 times)
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« on: September 03, 2011, 05:41 AM »

I did the math and a 540+a360+900............... maybe I am wrong.  I've done them before just no camera....Haven't had decent wind for almost a week. It's either too high or way too low to work on fade's...  Been trying though... Getting better.  But the low wind is tough on me.  Had to drive to my friends farm yesterday in upper Michigan... nice tomatoes and beans,corn,squash... Wind was a nightmare all day yesterday at night it died out.  Had to walk with mama at the beach.  Really sucked no kite and a sunset to die for.  Found a new area at the Beach... not as nice landing area but beautiful background stuff.  Maybe tonight.  Going to baseball game tomorrow night. Detroit vs. Chicago... seats behind the dug-out.  Why don't they fly kites at a game Huh In between innings pitchers could fly... Embarrassed   Enjoy..Vertigo Out !!!


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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 07:52 AM »

Cool  Cool

You still look a little tense on the first rotation. If you relax, concentrate on getting them really flat and only pop just as much as you need to multiple rotations get a lot easier. Rather than relying on inertia you can keep gently popping to keep the rotations going.

On Dean Jordan's kites I used to be able to get 3 or 4 rotations in light winds Cool but I've seen better fliers than me do a full corkscrew right down the window.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 08:20 AM »

See if you can find a Sky Burner Wahoo with the original bridle.

Agreed, one pop 900's. Just hit it hard and let it go.

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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 12:21 PM »

This is great to see.  When you start to understand 'how' kites do things...you start to see the possibilities.

You are really doing great as a new flier.  You are certainly flying for the love it, and that's why we keep watching your videos despite their lack of earth shattering combos. 

Wonderful stuff.  As Ian suggested, the next step is to try to reign in your inputs to a minimum.  You can do this by ever improving the timing of the hit and the slack.  It is this progression from rough to smooth that makes it look so EASY when a master is flying.  Their timing is just better than ours. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 09:32 AM »

I've never found one pop 900's or multiple flat spins to be reliable.  I hate tricks where you yank a line and pray it does what you want.

For reliable multiple flat spins I learned like this.
Get a pitch stable kite.
Go out in light winds and practice pinwheels.
Practice trying to tend the pinwheel on the way down and keep it in control.
Add more and more control to your pinwheel until you are in total control and its not really a pinwheel anymore. It's multiple flat spins.

The key to multiple flat spins is to keep the kite moving down wind the whole time.

To keep the kite moving down wind the whole time while remaining in control, you need to practice down wind glides over and over and over.  Multiple flat spins are a down wind glide where the kite is spinning.

This video shows what I'm talking about.
A Vapor Video by John Welden
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 09:46 AM »

That was beautiful John... I loved it.  I see what you mean... Actually I am ready to post yesterday's work out.  I start out rough but start to apply what you said before..Practice the fade.. I also combined Norm.Obi... work on the edge of the window... Feel the wind...  I stayed out there a good part of the day...  John your video played at 360p but I saw the real 360... Nice flying.  Actually beautiful flying... And Thanks for all your feed back. I need it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 10:58 AM »

Sorry thats the best video I have. I don't know what happened to the original. I'm not the one who posted it on youtube. 360p should be illegal.

At least you can see the kite moving down wind.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 08:17 AM »

I've never found one pop 900's or multiple flat spins to be reliable.

The only kite I have found to do this reliably is the Wahoo. That was the coolest thing about that kite. That and the endless side slides.

See ya,
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