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Author Topic: Level one.....Which one?  (Read 2403 times)
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« on: September 09, 2011, 09:28 PM »

I'd like to add a Level one kite to my arsenal but I'm not sure which one to get. I like slow and floaty with smaller inputs. Is there a model that comes close to this? Thanks in advance to all.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 10:27 PM »

black pearl (ul)!
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 11:34 PM »

+1 Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 12:01 AM »

by the way: mine is for sale (got a bunch of tnt's now): http://www.vliegerwereld.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5850

but i don't know how high (low?) the postagecosts are from the netherlands to america

BLACK PEARL UL in Rosmalen
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 03:21 AM »

Quote: Krijn:by the way: mine is for sale (got a bunch of tnt's now)

How does a TNT compare to the Black Pearl?


In my opinion best LEVEL ONE kite: JJF - swap out leading edges and spine to skyshark carbon and you have one of the best kites in the world. If you search the internet you can buy them for around $200 and reframe for $50, same kite is called an Excalibur but it cost $ 350.

I have in level one:
1. Extreme
2. Genesis EVO
3. Eternity limited edition
4. Eternity std
5. JJF Matzel edition - UL : amazing kites and tricks with ease
6. JJF std modified to Excalibur
7. JJF std modified to SUL
8. Genesis UL

Level one kites are good solid kites to fly and trick so it just gets down to your ability to fly

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 05:00 AM »

+1 for JJF....


Flying High.... do you have the specs for the modification of JJF....
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 05:27 AM »

The spec are hard to find but here they are:

Swap the leading edges to skyshark rods - this makes the leading edge stiff,
Swap out spine to skyshark rods - this makes the spine stiff and balances the kite you might need some CFG or the leading edge material to make the spine to correct length. + additional weight to tail - optional

Basically buy a std JJF and pimp it to Excalibur standards - you will save over $ 100

Note: JJF can be bought at a cheaper price if you spend the time and look.

If you have any problems on pimping the kite just PM me and I'll give you all the answers. Where to buy a JJF cheap well that requires another skill - luck!!. LOL.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 07:28 AM »

The spec are hard to find

you should look here first Wink
http://new.levelonekites.com/content/view/94/105/
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 07:14 AM »

by the way: mine is for sale (got a bunch of tnt's now): http://www.vliegerwereld.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5850

Is it taken???  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 02:58 AM »

The JJF Matzel edition is just an amazing kite, low centre of gravity which is shown in the images and a slightly different design for the spine.

1. Spine bottom: Sky Shark P2x x 410mm
2. Spine top: CFG 5mm x 430mm

3.Upper spreader: Sky shark P90 x 500mm
4.Lower spreader: Sky shark P90 x 690mm

5. Upper leading edge: P90 x 825mm
6. Lower leading edge: P90 x 545mm

7. Stand off inner: 3mm x 260mm
8. Stand off outer: 3mm x 255mm

9. Tail weight: 6 gr x brass fitting

This kite does every trick with ease just a beautiful balance a small kite that flies fast and performs




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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 09:34 AM »

Awesome!!!

Been looking for the specs for a while.....

Many thanks Keith Grin
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 02:04 AM »

The JJF Matzel edition is just an amazing kite, low centre of gravity which is shown in the images and a slightly different design for the spine.

... and the sail is made from "old" PC31 Icarex (rectangles, no squares) Cool

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This kite does every trick with ease just a beautiful balance a small kite that flies fast and performs

JJF Matzel Edition
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 03:15 AM »

Hi Mike,

Great video, It shows how capable a small kite can perform tricks, just awesome, I fly my JJF at that level and love it. The kite does the tricks with easy, you don't need to make large inputs , good timing and practice that's all it takes. The Matzel edition is a UL so either fly early in the morning or on a low wind day.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2011, 09:24 AM »

Genesis UL... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 07:48 AM »

When getting a new kite, I always prefer the latest model, which is the Black Pearl. Often I bought an older version, just ending up buying the newer design afterwards ...

Slow and floaty would be the Eternity or Gentleman, because they have a bigger sail area than the Black Pearl or Jumping Jack Flash.
> BP reviews here

HTH.
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