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Author Topic: Tips on light to zero wind flying  (Read 6151 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 05:51 PM »

IS dropping 2oz from a standard kite to an ul version really make that much difference?

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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 06:00 PM »

IS dropping 2oz from a standard kite to an ul version really make that much difference?
Depends on a few other design features but yea it can make a big difference.  You may not get a lower mph but you can improve flyability in the low end with the trade off of high end durability.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 11:07 PM »

Take your kite out and add a 2 oz weight. Then go flying & see if you can tell a difference.

Yeah, 2 oz makes a big difference.

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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 09:16 AM »

I have a T&T comp. It is old school design, with a large sail.

Just removing the upper spreader makes is a wonderful UL kite for precision flying.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2011, 10:02 AM »

2 ounces works out to about a 20% weight savings, that is significant

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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2011, 11:17 AM »

I have UFO SUL from Flying winds.
Old kite and design. Spreader connecter has bean desitegrate so I put APA.
Any way... kite is 2m but very light 150 grams. Very I mean very nice about its weight.
Also I put new bridle like on Sky Sport design kite.
Low weight cost trick ability and less inertia but all is compromice.
But for zero wind conditions weight is big factor. Also new design has longer stand offs and kites can be less floaty.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 02:10 PM »

Its not so much the 2oz difference, but the fraction of weight it represents.
2oz from a 100oz kite is not much, 2oz from a 6oz kite is a lot of difference and very noticeable in low wind flying.
However after a certain weight point, it gets excessive in cost to get the weight down further while having diminishing returns in effectivity as well. Because the wind speed is so low that even small changes in the wind speed translate to big differences in the force it can create. Resulting in very litle difference in required wind speed at the low end. You usable window of wind speed shrinks the more you sacrifice structure to save weight.
The key is to find a good middle ground between the kites structural integrity and its weight.
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